Morel Lifter Worth it?
 

I am looking at these for a MK IV BBC. are they really any good?
Also does anybody know if they are pin oiled or not for the mkIV Retrofit Hyd. Roller

Yes the best you can buy. Worth every penny.
Get a hold of RMBUILDER he help design the lifter, he will not say that or advertise it. Best advise you can get.
He spends so much time talking to you, I dont know how he makes any money:drink::drink:

I'm definitely not a valvetrain (or even engine) guru, but I can say that Morel lifters are very high quality. I am in their factory about every other week. I sell industrial carbide cutting tools and provide application support to our customers as well. Morel uses our inserts to turn, bore, and drill the lifters as well as our solid carbide end mills to rough and finish a lot of the slot details. Great guys to deal with and every time I go in there, they're always busting tail to get a hot order out for a race the upcoming weekend. Lots of high profile customers and big focus on quality, too.

Nice. I went ahead and bought 2 sets. I have not heard a Bad thing about them from differant sites as well as racing buddies.

I run them in my blown mark iv engines and no problems what so ever. One thing to mention is when I first set them up in my engines I preloaded them at 5/8 turn like on my old flat tappet lifters and had a lot of valve train noise. I had to preload them to 1 full turn to get them to be quiet. Not a problem, just something for you to consider when installing them.

i dont like noise. thanks

+100 :ernaehrung004:

I use Morals and I went 5/8 after preload. They are very quiet, but the engine screams !!!:drink:

I'm also running morel lifters that I bought from Bob Mandera/Marine Kinetics. Exellent lifter IMO...

:party-smiley-004:

My how times have changed

Yuck, that doesn't look good at all. :popcorn:

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other than the broken parts what is wrong with this picture?

:bong:

They are some of the best quality hyd lifters we use them all the time in the cars we build. Im a Morel dealer Id have to check but maybe able to help you guys out with them

Yeah cause it NEVER happened! Morel a huge multi national company called up BOB the snake oil salesman and needed help designing a lifter.. but SHHHH that`s just between me and you .. LMAO!
That`s rich.

Good to know. Thanks !

Ed Morel is local to us here in cleveland. Lives 15 minutes from me.
Super nice and knowledgable guy.
He came down to the machine shop when we set up my block for the .903 lifters.

The notion that Bob M had a hand in his R&D is probably bull. He comes of to the drags once in awhile. I'll ask him about that one, but I'm betting it's BS.

I can unfortunately say that I also had a Morel lifter break like this one and do some major damage but the issue was my installation. Unfortunately they can flip around if you are socking them or not paying attention and I did not notice during installation but it did bind up causing me to cut the lifter out. I am not saying this is what happened here but people do make mistakes.

I replaced those with Morels and have not had an issue and also have them in my new boat build and used the .750 roller hydraulic version.

It can happen if the lifter bore index is off, or the cam lobe is tapered. Or, sometimes chit just happens

How does a tie bar lifter flip around when being installed

Happened to a buddy of mine. They didnt catch it and it did just what sonic30s did. Thats why they are usually stamped "up"

Pretty easy to flip if you don't pay attention the the ^up^

when you say, FLIP their being installed backwards ??

I didn't build these engines, bought boat with 80 ish hrs on them.
Have had other builders tell me about noise issues with Morels (quiet one min, rattling like crazy the next- I believe 1Moses1 threw his out for the same reason)
Fwiw I went with the GM lifters they use in the ZZ motors and they are working great.

Dunno? What?
PBM made by Morel

Old news...happened last run of '15 couple of fresh motors in there now.

Got it, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the bulb just came on

Arent the johnsons .700 wheel

I also don't see anything wrong. They where installed the right way. Looks like the rivet gave up.

what cam is in there, that lobe profile looks to be very aggressive , or maybe its the picture

Looks like that dowel pin or ??? laying in the valley got lodged under the link bar and snapped the rivet off

Mild crane 168791

That'd be the axle ��

That's the lifter axel.

Odd that the axle and wheel ended up on top

The axle made it up into the galley , thats a feat in itself ........surprised the cam didn't break.