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Old 04-20-2011, 04:57 PM
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Any input would be appreciated.

Late last year my boat started to develop a really "weird" intermittent problem. when the boat was "cold" after sitting overnite or for an entire day. I would get in, turn the key and NOTHING would happen, no solenoids clicking, no change in volt gauge, it was like the key switch wasn't even hooked up?

Sometimes I would turn the key 2 or 3 times and other times it would be 6 or 7 and then "bam" the boat would fire right up. I figured it was a loose connection, ground, bad solenoid, the "usual suspects"

Here is the weird part: Once the boat has "started" once, it fires up on the first try for the rest of the day/nite. I was out one day last year and had to turn the key probably 1/2 a dozen times before it started at the dock, naturally I was a little nervous about going out in the river and not being able to restart the boat to get home, so, I turned the key and it fired up instantly, I went for a 30 minute run, shut the boat off, turned the key, and once again it fired right up. we anchored and swam for a few hours, decided to come home, and AGAIN the boat fired right up. I got back to the dock that nite, and when I came down the next day to go out again I had to turn the key 3 or 4 times before it would start?

I have had this happen in numerous race/classic cars, but, it normally happens when the starter gets HOT, not when its Cold?

I am thinking of changing the "key switch" and see if that helps, since all the other connections "seem" ok

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Originally Posted by Fountain4402
im going with the slave solenoid try that. Otherwise if you have the Merc manual on the enging it has a battery of test to figure out what part is wrong. I would diagnose it the best you can before throwing parts at it. Check your batteries. Check all your connections for a good connection and no corrosion. Then start with cheap parts, slave solenoid, ignition switch. last choice would be the starter
Slave solenoid x2.
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Where would slave solenoid be? On the starter or remote? Boat is a 1996 Baja, single 454EFI B1 drive,

Anyway to test it? Would a "regular" automotive solenoid work? What would cause it to only act up when it was cold?

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Nutral safty switch? Try holding the key over to start it and wiggle your shifter.
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exactly the same problem on my 496 it was the slave selenoid.
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Does any of the accesories work before you hit the starter? Is so I agree slave solenoid.
If not I had that fuse block go bad. Long shot but check it if you still have it on.
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Originally Posted by n20michael
Where would slave solenoid be? On the starter or remote? Boat is a 1996 Baja, single 454EFI B1 drive,

Anyway to test it? Would a "regular" automotive solenoid work? What would cause it to only act up when it was cold?

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It is at the rear of the engine, see 17 below. To be sure use a test light on the small terminals of the solenoid. If you turn the key and the light comes on and the solenoid doesn't click, you have a bad solenoid.
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Thanks guys! I appreciate all the help, will try and diagnose it this week sometime, thanks again!
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Great! Anyone have a part number?

I looked online and the ones I could find on Ebay looked just like regular automotive style remote solenoids, could I just use one of those? Or are the marine/Merc ones different?

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