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Old 06-13-2011, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cash68
PROBLEM: Shift cutout. The shift cables are adjusted so when I shift, forward is forward in the lower unit, and reverse = reverse, and nuetral = nuetral.

However, the shift cutout lever NEVER MOVES, and NEVER ACTIVATES the switch. Why? I am pretty mechanically inclined but i do not understand why or how this is supposed to work. The boat shifts into gear fine, but the cutout lever and switch are doing nothing whatsoever.

3am. Going to sleep now. Tomorrow: Life jackets. Change oil in lower unit. Cover batteries. GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ted, my mistake i missed the (-) part of your first comment. you are correct, that will work.

cash, is you interrupt not engaging while you have it running on muffs out of the water? usually the interrupt wont activate out of the water. all it does is intantly cut power to unload the drive and release the dog gears in the drive. the interrupt works off of a little resistance on the lower shift cable while trying to pull the drive out of gear. the resistance goes away once out of gear, so the switch deactivates since there is no "pull" on the shift cables. The switch only works when the dogs are loaded (ie prop turning in the water). try it in the water, it should work fine.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:27 AM
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Okay, will try looking at it in the water next time.
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cash68
Okay, will try looking at it in the water next time.
if it came out of gear the last time you used it, its working. you won't be able to get the drive out of gear if its not working. trust me, you would have found out as soon as you backed off the trailer and went to shift from rev to forward. you would end up pulling real hard on the shifter and it would go straight from forward to reverse. the only way it comes out of gear is to release the tension (instantaneously cut power to the engine) on the dog clutch to make it release. do that a few too many times and your drive becomes a really expensive anchor.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:11 PM
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Determined to figure it out this year. Last year I could only go from forward to reverse, nuetral was only available if I started the engine. Ugh. Obnoxious.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:41 PM
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First on grounding the coil with the shift cutout, it is not a dead short as the coil has a resistance around .8 ohms. This equates to about 15amps and is only momentary as the unit shifts.

There is no detent in the shift mechanism in the lower unit, the dog just goes from forward through neutral into reverse. The detent is in the shifter. Make sure that when the shifter is in neutral, the dog is adjusted so that it is in the middle of its travel (not very close to forward or reverse).

If it shifts fine while running isn't that what really matters? Why are you shifting it without it running? The clutch dog will engage forward or reverse with everything turning better than it will not running. If the cutout is not working, you could almost break the shifter off trying to pull it out of gear.

Also, if the cable is worn/stretched it can make shifting difficult and should be replaced.

Hope this helps your situation.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Maine
First on grounding the coil with the shift cutout, it is not a dead short as the coil has a resistance around .8 ohms. This equates to about 15amps and is only momentary as the unit shifts.
So for the shift cutout switch... run one wire to ground, and the other to the negative side of the coil, which is IN the HEI cap. Right?

There is no detent in the shift mechanism in the lower unit, the dog just goes from forward through neutral into reverse. The detent is in the shifter. Make sure that when the shifter is in neutral, the dog is adjusted so that it is in the middle of its travel (not very close to forward or reverse).
I know. It's adjusted properly, in terms of the cables. The issue is right now I don't have the interrupt switch hooked up to anything... so if I put it in neutral, I can start the boat, then slam it into forward, but once in forward I can never hit neutral again. This is all because I don't have an interrupt switch, so when I pull it out of forward it requires enough force that it jumps right into reverse.

If the cutout is not working, you could almost break the shifter off trying to pull it out of gear.
It actually isn't THAT bad. But it's not how it should be.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:42 PM
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Yeah, mercuiser style cutout should go from engine ground to negative side of coil (whether integral to the distributor or a separate coil).

On my motor (1986) there is a 2 lug bar beneath the cutout switch that the 2 wires from the cutout switch go to. One of these screws is already grounded to the engine so don't hook the coil to this one or the coil will always be grounded and the engine won't start (coil will get very hot too with key on). Not sure if you have this type of setup.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:40 PM
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Got it.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:51 PM
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Like this?



There are only two wires on my HEI dizzy, run and tach. So I'm guessing that the tach is the ground wire?
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:59 PM
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That is correct.
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