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tony2times 09-27-2011 07:15 AM

hydraulic steering
 
So I have a 1994 Baja and gimble plate pun is wearing out which is giving me play in the steering, I've heard to repair is will cost around 4gs. I can buy external hydraulic steering way cheaper than that, and will be a much better setup than what I have. My question is has anyone done this is it hard to do, running single outdrive. I'm a very capable weekend mechanic, but this seems like it could be smuggle over my head.

Dave M 09-27-2011 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by tony2times (Post 3513226)
So I have a 1994 Baja and gimble plate pun is wearing out which is giving me play in the steering, I've heard to repair is will cost around 4gs. I can buy external hydraulic steering way cheaper than that, and will be a much better setup than what I have. My question is has anyone done this is it hard to do, running single outdrive. I'm a very capable weekend mechanic, but this seems like it could be smuggle over my head.

I think if your gimbal ring is already worn, you are going to need to fix it. I once had a single ram add-on system and my gimbal was worn. It still created a dangerous situation. When I accelerated hard, the boat would pull to the star. side. Once my gimbal ring was repaired, the problem went away.

Also, it didn't cost anywhere near 4K to replace the gimbal ring.

swan2 09-27-2011 10:07 AM

Im aslo need to replace the gimble ring and pin. Im an automotive mechanic for years and was also wondering if this is something that can be done at the house to save money? I know theres a couple of holes that have to be drilled at the top of the gimble housing and then plugged after work in done Im assming this is to gain access to a bolt or a pin of some kind? Any help would be appreciated thanks so much. :coolcowboy:

BUP 09-27-2011 11:11 AM

jrmarine.com and it will show how this is done to remove and replace your gimbal ring. You can send it to them and have it welded up on the worn issues.

They offer the swivel shaft pin if needed along with a S.S. Gimbal ring if that is needed to combat heavy salt water use. Good luck

scottw 09-27-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by swan2 (Post 3513420)
Im aslo need to replace the gimble ring and pin. Im an automotive mechanic for years and was also wondering if this is something that can be done at the house to save money? I know theres a couple of holes that have to be drilled at the top of the gimble housing and then plugged after work in done Im assming this is to gain access to a bolt or a pin of some kind? Any help would be appreciated thanks so much. :coolcowboy:

Check out www.jrmarine.com

bajabob 09-27-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by tony2times (Post 3513226)
So I have a 1994 Baja and gimble plate pun is wearing out which is giving me play in the steering, I've heard to repair is will cost around 4gs. I can buy external hydraulic steering way cheaper than that, and will be a much better setup than what I have. My question is has anyone done this is it hard to do, running single outdrive. I'm a very capable weekend mechanic, but this seems like it could be smuggle over my head.

yes you can you can go one cly full hyd. you take out the cable and replace with hoses you have to take the steering wheel out and replace that talk to bill he set me up with imco http://www.diamondperformanceparts.c...cat=261&page=1 once you put this on you will love it ,the drive does not move no play at all!!! well worth it and easy to put on

lightning jet 09-27-2011 04:57 PM

Take the extra time and pull the motor and transom assm to repair the ring then put the full hyd system on.

Imco makes a very nice affordable system.

bajabob 09-27-2011 05:58 PM

that pin does nothing when full hyr in install. why waste your money and time?

tony2times 09-27-2011 06:05 PM

thats what I have heard if I go full hydro I wont have to fix the pin at all. I have looked at Latham Marine stuff, looks alittle complicated. Even the baja dealer suggested the same thing. He said it would be 4gs to repair it, pulling motor drive basically how explained it anything that is black. right now I have only about 1 inch of play either way when I move the drive with my hand.

lightning jet 09-27-2011 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by bajabob (Post 3513891)
that pin does nothing when full hyr in install. why waste your money and time?

Except hold the top of the ring on the boat :lolhit:

bcfountain 09-27-2011 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3513834)
Take the extra time and pull the motor and transom assm to repair the ring then put the full hyd system on.

Imco makes a very nice affordable system.

what he said.

bajabob 09-28-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3513910)
Except hold the top of the ring on the boat :lolhit:

yes it does . but thats not the part that goes bad. the arm and the pin ware!!!!! one inch play is not worth fixing. if you go full hyr. with one cly:drink: did two boats and they work great drive does not move at all!!!!!

bajabob 09-28-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by tony2times (Post 3513897)
thats what I have heard if I go full hydro I wont have to fix the pin at all. I have looked at Latham Marine stuff, looks alittle complicated. Even the baja dealer suggested the same thing. He said it would be 4gs to repair it, pulling motor drive basically how explained it anything that is black. right now I have only about 1 inch of play either way when I move the drive with my hand.

tony talk to bill 1/2 the price http://www.diamondperformanceparts.c...cat=261&page=1

lightning jet 09-28-2011 07:45 PM

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Just do it right the first time if the ring is loose it will fail.

How's the saying go (You can pay me now or pay me later} :coolcowboy:

ezstriper 09-29-2011 07:15 AM

Damn...talking about things gone bad !!!!

osur866 09-29-2011 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3514980)
Just do it right the first time if the ring is loose it will fail.

How's the saying go (You can pay me now or pay me later} :coolcowboy:


You forgot "Never time to do it right, but always time to do it over" :lolhit:

swan2 09-29-2011 09:25 AM

:eekdrop:

Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3514980)
Just do it right the first time if the ring is loose it will fail.

How's the saying go (You can pay me now or pay me later} :coolcowboy:


bcfountain 09-30-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3514980)
Just do it right the first time if the ring is loose it will fail.

How's the saying go (You can pay me now or pay me later} :coolcowboy:

now that would really ruin your day of boating,,,,,,,,not to mention what it would do to your wallet:lolhit:

lightning jet 09-30-2011 09:28 AM

Merc gets 980.00 for the ring now $$$$$$$$

Codered 09-30-2011 01:15 PM

If the swivel shaft is loose or worn chances are the seal is also bad, thus allowing water to enter the boat

n20michael 09-30-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Codered (Post 3516735)
If the swivel shaft is loose or worn chances are the seal is also bad, thus allowing water to enter the boat

Exactly! I had the exact same problem, considered hydraulic steering, but, it wasnt going to stop, or prevent a leak. Switched to a new JR Marine SS swivel pin and seal along with a new Transom Ring, it wasnt cheap, but, nowhere near 4g's! What REALLY adds up in small boats like mine is having to tear the back seat out and the other "grunt" work. Like many things the actual
"repair" was pretty simple and not real time consuming, its GETTING to the damn thing that takes time and/or $$$$

I would change the ring, pin and seal, hard to pit a price tag on peace of mind (-:

Michael


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