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hadleycat 04-08-2012 10:06 AM

remote oil filter
 
Currently putting 496 manifolds on my 454 and lookin to scrap the stock remote oil filter bracket and go with a remote mount onto the firewall. Such as the one sold by Joes Racing Products. Just not sure what kind of lines I need to run to this mount. Or where to buy them. Can I buy the parts and cut them to length and install the fittings myself. Any concerns with using an automotive remote mount. I am not even sure if my stock lines are 1/2" npt like the ones on the remote mount I am looking at. Thanks for any help.

mike tkach 04-08-2012 08:30 PM

you can use a automotive filter head and remotly mount it,use -10 line or bigger,i always use -12.you can use braided stainless hose,or pushlock,i keep away from the cheeper rubber hose.

Turbojack 04-09-2012 08:36 PM

-12 & pushlock hose and fittings

tcelano 04-09-2012 11:16 PM

Push-Lock is technically OK, as most carry a 250 or 300 psi rating. However, given what is at stake, I don't think this is a good place to get cheap and easy. Oil pressure can easily be 80-100 psi on a cold startup.

If you look at what comes with something like an Amsoil remote filter kit, they are hydraulic-JIC quality reusible fittings. At least use screw-on fittings like XRP or Aeroquip, I say. Save the push-lock stuff for things that you don't worry about about coming apart and toasting an engine or burning your boat down... Push-lock can come apart or cut itself from inside out due to vibration or poor hose support.

hadleycat 04-10-2012 05:42 PM

Thanks for the help guys does anyone know the size of fittings that will mate up properly to the oil cooler and oil filter adapter on a gen 5 454 magnum. I have heard the oil cooler is a double flare but not sure on the thread size. Has anyone out there done this to there gen 5 454 mag.

mike tkach 04-10-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by tcelano (Post 3659912)
Push-Lock is technically OK, as most carry a 250 or 300 psi rating. However, given what is at stake, I don't think this is a good place to get cheap and easy. Oil pressure can easily be 80-100 psi on a cold startup.

If you look at what comes with something like an Amsoil remote filter kit, they are hydraulic-JIC quality reusible fittings. At least use screw-on fittings like XRP or Aeroquip, I say. Save the push-lock stuff for things that you don't worry about about coming apart and toasting an engine or burning your boat down... Push-lock can come apart or cut itself from inside out due to vibration or poor hose support.

both of my boats have-12 pushlock hose,how is 250lb rating not good for 100 lbs max?

mike tkach 04-10-2012 07:02 PM

i have seen braided stainless hose come off a fitting,you will never see a pushlock hose come off the fitting,the fitting will break before the hose comes off,as far as the hose getting cut from inside,thats one i have never heard of,there is nothing sharp inside,the fittings are blunt.

hadleycat 04-10-2012 08:05 PM

I have looked at the push-lock and the aeroquip and all I have been able to find are female ends. I need a hose end like a brake line.

hadleycat 04-10-2012 08:21 PM

The more I look at these hoses the more I think I will need to have the hoses custom made. I can not find any fittings that will seat properly on my oil cooler or filter adapter.

f_inscreenname 04-10-2012 08:38 PM

Why not just put it back where it was?

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tcelano 04-11-2012 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3660589)
i have seen braided stainless hose come off a fitting,you will never see a pushlock hose come off the fitting,the fitting will break before the hose comes off,as far as the hose getting cut from inside,thats one i have never heard of,there is nothing sharp inside,the fittings are blunt.

I've seen the last barb cut through like I said,
This was on a smaller size, like -4 or 6. Ive taken lots of them apart, including new hose/fittings that I wasn't happy with my first cut length, and I found it disturbingly easy to give the hose a good pull and tear it out. I don't use them on anything critical.

As far as pressure ratings go something that can pass a proof test when brand new at 250 psi isn't a good enough factor of safety for continuous usage at 100 in my book for something with expensive consequences. Water or air hoses, fine, just not my engine oil. Not trying to argue with anyone, just saying come look at my latest rigging project, and you will see push lock on only the following:


-boost, engine water, and intercooler water pressure gauge lines
-engine flush fittings
-drive oil reservoir
-power steering reservoir, and i think a few fittings in the low pressure side/cooler area (although USCG frowns on even that)

Not to say that screw or swaged fittings can't fail, but I like the odds a bit better.

Philm 04-11-2012 08:17 AM

I have pushlocks all over my engine, but all with a clamp on them. Not a hose clamp, but a thin clip together clamp. I dont know what they are called, thats just what my hose guy likes to use. Takes a special tool to secure them on.

hadleycat 04-11-2012 09:43 AM

I am stiil confused on what kind of fitting will mate up with my stock oil cooler and oil filter adapter. Anyone know?

bcfountain 04-11-2012 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3660581)
both of my boats have-12 pushlock hose,how is 250lb rating not good for 100 lbs max?

there no good because you did not prick/cut/bloody your finger tips like you do w/ss braided hose.:lolhit:

tcelano 04-11-2012 03:03 PM

Can't argue with that. I've got two fingers currently in recovery.

tcelano 04-11-2012 03:09 PM

Getting back to the original topic, I would suggest looking at Amsoil's site. They supply a black nylon braided hose, with reusable JIC fittings that you can do yourself. If you do just go push lock, a backup means of securing them is a great idea. Your local Parker dealer can hook you up with whatever you want. If you work out the lengths, you can get crimped fittings made up, which are cheaper than the reusables.

FYI, I happened to notice that the design pressure on a HP6A racing oil filter is 400 psi. That's a reasonable factor of safety.


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