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Randy Nielsen 07-01-2013 12:21 AM

I have a new update on Party Gras, I took it out yesterday & my water pressure lines are plugged up with the fine silt that is in the water so I need to find a different place for that. But on the down side I have a oil pressure problem that starts @ 5000rpm. The boat runs & cruises fine, a little slow out of the hole but nothing to cry about. My oil pressure on the port engine runs40-50psi cruising, yesterday I pushed the sticks forward to 5000rpm & the port gauge dropped to around 15-20psi & was fluctuating rapidly. Pull back the stick & it jumps right back up to 45psi steady. I did this three times shortly & the exact same thing happened, back to the trailer. No odd noises everything tight all connections good, no oil loss or oily smell. Plan on installing a manual gauge with a t to verify oil pressure and verify gauge. I can also jump the wires to see if the gauge changes with the other engine. A friend suggested a restrictor failed & is pumping too much oil to the top of the engine, don't know but why would it only do it @5K &go back to normal once slowed down & right back to the same once 5K again. Any Ideas? I'm hoping it is something simple but right now I am at a loss. Could use some help if anyone has experienced this problem before. Thanks in advance, Randy

Payton 07-01-2013 05:49 AM

Sending unit?

Randy Nielsen 07-03-2013 12:10 AM

Gonna install a manual gauge tomorrow & see how things go. Talked with the builder today & he seems to think the sending unit went out & also had me check the oil level which is a punch mark on the stick above the full mark. Both are full to the punch mark. I really hope it's something simple. I am also going to change the oil tomorrow, cut the filters open & see if anything bad is lying around in there. If all is well after that then I can address the prop slip issue of 22.9% If I can get it down to around 10% the boat should do close to if not over 90mph. I will be wishing for some luck in this department as a lot has happened in the last couple of weeks & months. I will post my results. Randy

o2bafloat 07-03-2013 05:13 AM

Randy.. Been following the thread.. VERY well put together. Thank you for sharing, I can't wait for you to get your 90... That would be some real fireworks on the 4th of July. Best of luck.

Randy Nielsen 07-03-2013 08:25 AM

Thanks o2bafloat, everything that has been done under the bonnet I pretty much learned from people on this website doing similar work on their own boats so I need to give some thanks to a bunch of people who have shared their work here. Without the people here who give their experience & knowledge to others I never would have attempted a project like this. Randy

Black Baja 07-03-2013 09:06 PM

Your oil pan is running out of oil at higher rpm. What kind of pans do you have?

Griff 07-04-2013 12:43 AM

Sending Unit, too much oil and getting aerated or not enough oil.

If the water psi hoses are in the block drains, the will constantly plug on the river.
What I did to help was to drill out the inner hose fitting so the hose would through it and into the block an inch or so. It still clogged once in a while. That was on my Pantera.
On my AT, the fittings are in the intake and they have never clogged.

Randy Nielsen 07-05-2013 03:14 AM

Peyton, Black Baja, Griff, I think my oil problem is indeed a sender problem. After changing oil & filter, cutting open the old filter & finding nothing bad in there,( there was a minute amount of powdery stuff in both filters) I installed my manual gauges in both engines & they both ran 65-70psi @ idle til warm. I used a infrared gun on the filter to determine temp, @150 degrees they read 50-55psi @ idle. At 3-4-5000rpm they were both @60psi & steady while electric gauges read lower & fluctuating some. Griff, I have a spare fitting on the intake to mount my pressure gauges to so I hope that cures that. The 4th was a fun day with the wife & friends,and the grandson even brought the puppy dog. He graduated to big boy boats today. I have new sending units ordered so I hope that cures the problem. Thanks for your responses, I'm glad it wasn't anything serious. Randy

Randy Nielsen 07-14-2013 11:03 PM

Well I replaced the oil senders in both engines, they both read close to equal but approximately 20 psi lower than my manual gauges. I guess I should call Livorsi & see if there is a resistor to put in line to make them more accurate, at least I know there is 20 psi even if the gauges are close to 0. I said earlier in this thread if I have any problems with my mounts I would give Sam (The Deep) first dibs on telling me "I told you so". I was looking things over last night & saw the mount nuts had worked loose, Sooo I pulled the drives, checked the alignment, still good, so I cranked the nuts down & did what I should have done and double nutted all 4. I also found a small oil leak, it feels like a fitting down at the block adapter so I will have to get a mirror down there for a better look. I have a friend that wants to try my shorties & he has stock length XRs so I think that is next to figure out my slippage issue, he also has some 30p 5 blade hydromotive (I think that's the name) props to try so stay tuned to my adventure in trying to find the big 90. Randy

delsol 07-15-2013 06:30 AM

Randy--- black baja could be right
I've had the same oil issue--- builder used stock pan and hv pump drained oil out of pan until it was sucking air. Then it blew a filter line rated for 2500 psi and by the time I got it shut down spun a bearing
Not sure what size pans you have but make sure they are big!


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