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Cole2534 03-25-2013 07:28 PM

How to wire in a trim limit switch
 
Howdy,
I'd like to wire-in a trim limit switch on a boat that doesn't currently use one. The Bravo on my boat doesn't have a 'trailer' button, trim only. However, due to the external steering cap and the low swimdeck if one isn't paying attention he may accidentally stuff the drive up into said platform. Not cool.

My plan is to adjust it to kill the up trim shortly before it collides with the swim deck.

Also, how hard is it to add a mechanical trim indicator? I'm fairly savvy with tools, I keep a small machine shop as a hobby, but I'm looking if there are any pitfalls.

Thanks

motor 03-25-2013 09:57 PM

I assume something is wrong with your stock trims sender and limit switch .Or is it a high perf without them. People will commonly bypass limit switch instead of repair it..
It's easy to install mechanical sender if that's what you need .nothing but $

FIXX 03-25-2013 11:57 PM

i didny look but knew it was a fountain..like mentioned most likely bypassed..look at the trim pump,their are bullett connectors going to it from the drive area,,look to see if they are connected..if you have a trim gauge then you will have the sender and it just may need to be hooked up or it is hooked up and may just need to be adjusted..as for external trim gauge look at eddiemarine.com they have a feew or go to the vender list on the left side of this page and pick one and start calling for pricing.

KWright 03-26-2013 06:26 AM

Mercury sells spacers that go inside your rams so it limits how far the drive can go up. Easy to do I had to do this on mine when I put on my new drive!

Cole2534 03-26-2013 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by FIXX (Post 3892751)
i didny look but knew it was a fountain..like mentioned most likely bypassed..look at the trim pump,their are bullett connectors going to it from the drive area,,look to see if they are connected..if you have a trim gauge then you will have the sender and it just may need to be hooked up or it is hooked up and may just need to be adjusted..as for external trim gauge look at eddiemarine.com they have a feew or go to the vender list on the left side of this page and pick one and start calling for pricing.

I'm fairly certain this is what's happened. And yes, I do have a failed trim gauge or sending unit that I'm looking to replace. But I took the limit switch apart and shined up the contacts, it's so dead simple it's nearly impossible for it to fail.

I'll have a look this weekend. Thanks.

Perlmudder 03-26-2013 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by KWright (Post 3892797)
Mercury sells spacers that go inside your rams so it limits how far the drive can go up. Easy to do I had to do this on mine when I put on my new drive!

We had to do this also. Very simple project

GAZ 03-26-2013 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by KWright (Post 3892797)
Mercury sells spacers that go inside your rams so it limits how far the drive can go up. Easy to do I had to do this on mine when I put on my new drive!

Can you explain this some more ? Or post a link to the spacer please.

KWright 03-26-2013 08:32 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 496823

Here ya go

Cole2534 03-26-2013 09:07 AM

That's one way to do it, but I'm going to try the method that doesn't require bleeding cylinders first. :whistle:

KWright 03-26-2013 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Cole2534 (Post 3892883)
That's one way to do it, but I'm going to try the method that doesn't require bleeding cylinders first. :whistle:

I had a solinoid stick and drove the drive into the swim platform hearing your gimbal crack is a sound you really don't want to hear! Trust me.

GAZ 03-26-2013 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by KWright (Post 3892863)

Thanks! Just ordered one. I have the same problem with my new drive, can't go all the way up or the helmet contacts the gimble ring. Are the shims a pain to put on?

motor 03-26-2013 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Cole2534 (Post 3892883)
That's one way to do it, but I'm going to try the method that doesn't require bleeding cylinders first. :whistle:

If your problem is the last bit of tilt range(not the lower trim range)The limit switch won't fix it and that is the way to do it. Trim limit switches only work down somewhere around the thrust pads

KWright 03-26-2013 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by GAZ (Post 3893217)
Thanks! Just ordered one. I have the same problem with my new drive, can't go all the way up or the helmet contacts the gimble ring. Are the shims a pain to put on?

Nope piece of cake!

KWright 03-26-2013 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by motor (Post 3893221)
if your problem is the last bit of tilt range(not the lower trim range)the limit switch won't fix it and that is the way to do it. Trim limit switches only work down somewhere around the thrust pads

+1

Cole2534 03-27-2013 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by motor (Post 3893221)
If your problem is the last bit of tilt range(not the lower trim range)The limit switch won't fix it and that is the way to do it. Trim limit switches only work down somewhere around the thrust pads

Why won't the limit switch prevent me from contacting my swim platform?

In its original setup you'd be out of the adjustment range. However if one were to re-index the setup and tinker with it I think you'd get to where the drive will stop automatically before the steering contacts the hull. I'm thinking that if it weren't for the steering linkage the drive would tilt up fully without issue.

Does anyone know the pin to pin length the spacers limit the cylinders? I'd like to measure and make sure it provides adequate protection. The thought of the stuck solenoid suckssss.

KWright 03-27-2013 09:13 AM

The travel limit of the switch won't allow it to rotate that far. If you set it at the top limit you wouldn't be able to lower your drive all the way. I will measure the spacers when I get to the shop. They are real easy to put in.

KWright 03-27-2013 09:49 AM

The spacers are 5/8'', you can put up to 3 per side.

Cole2534 03-27-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by KWright (Post 3893539)
The travel limit of the switch won't allow it to rotate that far.

Ahh, now I see. I hadn't considered the overall travel of the limit switch, I'm not used to dealing with these in a rotary app. Thank you.

I'm headed to my shop this afternoon to do some other work on the drive so I'll measure and see what will work best.

dereknkathy 03-29-2013 07:23 PM

usually what fails is the wires where they go through the transom. i have seen one setup where the wires are routed thru transom above the gimball housing. it is another hole in transom, but you don't hafta pull drive(s) to get to the wiring...

Cole2534 04-28-2013 01:19 PM

Bump.

I finally measured some things, and I'd like to limit cylinder extension to 25-1/4".

Does anyone know pin-to-pin length at full extension of these cylinders? I'd like to know how many spacers to order.

Thanks, Cole

phragle 04-28-2013 01:28 PM

I you have a small machince shop, spacers are cake to make. I used to make them all the time for shocks. all you need is some aluminum round stock and a lathe.

Cole2534 04-28-2013 03:12 PM

I have a pretty well equipped machine shop, it's the dimensions I'm looking for. Lol

FBRONCO 05-01-2013 07:19 AM

I don't want to hijack the thread, but can someone explain how the two wires off the trim limit puck are supposed to be wired into the trim pump? And the trim gauge puck? The person that owned the boat before me just cut both the trim sender and trim limit wires and installed a mechanical indicator. I have since purchased a new transom assembly and I'm going back to using the trim limit puck and trim sender puck. (removed the mechanical indicator) I don't see any cut leads or empty bullet connectors on my pump. Can someone tell me how to wire the trim limit sender and trim gauge sender?


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