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masi242 10-11-2014 07:53 PM

Compression test?
 
We'll as the title says I had to do my first compression test, today. I warmed up,the engine, disconnected the coil, but I didn't keep,the choke open will,this change the readings? My numbers didn't come back all that great the worst was 105 best 115, now shouldn't a good reading be about 150. This all started at the beginning of the season, boat didn't idle right last top end rpms. I put new cap, rotor and new plugs. When I changed the plugs number 4 plug was bad totally fouled I guess I was running on 7. After that boat ran great, until that same plug fouled out again. Along with that I started to notice I was using a lot more oil I run Mobil 1 15w50 synthetic.
I have already talked to the shop I have dealt with for over 20 years about this and showed him a couple of the plugs, and he said with a smile this doesn't look good. After talking for a bit about different problems this could be I asked what a total rebuild would cost he said about 5k with them taking it out and back in.
The engine was a remained gen IV 454. I have read many other post over the years guess I didn't think this would be my engine. Any thing you have to say good or bad I would like to hear it, I just want the boat ready in the spring

Thanks

Mark

jeff32 10-11-2014 08:25 PM

Open throttle would maybe change only 5 on reading... Of course what you don t want is having 45 pounds different from one to the other! Seems like it is not your problem! BUT !

They are low... Since you say its burning much more oil, looks like its time for a rebuild. You could always take a leak down test, this would tell you more where is the problem for low compression. But burning oil tells me cylinder and rings!

Keep us posted!

masi242 10-12-2014 05:53 AM

I was thinking rebuild also, I guess this boating.

mike tkach 10-12-2014 05:09 PM

with compression being that low and useing oil i would say tired rings,valves not sealing well and valve springs weak.afraid it is time for a rebuild.

blue thunder 10-12-2014 07:15 PM

How is the compression on #4 vs the others? From your description I was leaning towards number 4 is sucking oil through the intake gasket, from the lifter valley. If it runs good until the #4 plug fouls I would look at the intake gaskets and even the intake itself for a crack.

masi242 10-12-2014 07:58 PM

Well I also forgot to tell you when I was ready to take it out of the water the last time I did notice a couple of small water droplet around the top of the intake not a lot no water in the oil.
I know most of you have more engine experience than I do, if I do a rebuild having my shop do it just keeping it stock does 5 k sound right or is this low.

GLENAMY 242SS 10-12-2014 08:26 PM

If you decide to rebuild and are budget minded you might think about one of the head sets for sale in swap shop section. 1 set is oval port 279 heads, that will give you a little higher compression with fresh rebuilt. The other set is 088 rectangular port with 150 hours includes roller rockers. Either of these should save you a bunch of money. I wish these were available 2-3 months ago.
Just thinking out loud.

masi242 10-12-2014 08:34 PM

I would love to throw more power in the boat but I only have the alpha. So I think 350hp would be it.

GLENAMY 242SS 10-12-2014 08:51 PM

Same problem with my '87 242. No hole shots and easy on acceleration. I added power this summer and my short term solution is keep a spare alpha drive in suburban, cheap insurance. Longer term solution is bravo conversion when i put real hp to boat. Good deal on new bravo hp complete transom set-up in swap shop $1,500 (i think). Just add an outdrive and you are set for adding substancial hp.
Good luck and keep us posted.

masi242 10-13-2014 07:21 AM

Did you repower or rebuild and hp did you end up with? I have over 300 hours with this alpha and no problems.


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