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Sonic30ss 10-05-2015 06:02 AM

So I did some research, looks like valve spring is a comp 954
210 seat/530 open, it's the spring that comes with the assembled 308 iron eagle.

Unlimited jd 10-05-2015 06:38 AM

Well valve float sure wasn't the cause

Sonic30ss 10-05-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4362406)
Well valve float sure wasn't the cause

Lol ya think?
Maybe too much spring?!??
Going to try to get down tonight and pull timing cover off to get a look at cam #s

ezstriper 10-05-2015 07:47 AM

what lift cam ? possibly coil bind without enough installed height ?, need to match the springs, retainers to what the cam needs..

Sonic30ss 10-05-2015 07:55 AM

[QUOTE=ezstriper;4362423]what lift cam ? possibly coil bind without enough installed height ?, need to match the springs, retainers to what the cam needs..[/QUOTE
Need to get the timing cover off to check cam #s hope to have time today
I did not build theses motors

MILD THUNDER 10-05-2015 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sonic30ss (Post 4362400)
So I did some research, looks like valve spring is a comp 954
210 seat/530 open, it's the spring that comes with the assembled 308 iron eagle.

Dart iron eagles came with either the 954 comp, 936 comp, or the vasco H-11 springs.

936 145lbs seat max lift .660
954 195lbs seat max lift .690
Vasco 250lbs seat max lift .790

Over springing a hydraulic lifter that is incapable of sustaining higher spring pressures, can also have negative effects on valvetrain control, just like under springing. Like if trying to run 500 plus lbs of pressure on a autozone flat tappet with 5w20 oil lol

TomFTM 10-05-2015 07:59 AM

On any performance motor , I would never put on an assembled cylinder head from a head manufacture without disassembling and checking everything.. Spring pressures are usually off , installed height is off and valve job is wrong for the application.. U have to realize they don't have engine builders or machinists assembling them ..

Sonic30ss 10-05-2015 07:35 PM

Dart lists it at 190 @ 1.900
Comp lists it at 210 @ 1.900
who to believe?

Sonic30ss 10-05-2015 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by TomFTM (Post 4362427)
On any performance motor , I would never put on an assembled cylinder head from a head manufacture without disassembling and checking everything.. Spring pressures are usually off , installed height is off and valve job is wrong for the application.. U have to realize they don't have engine builders or machinists assembling them ..

Understood and have done on my own builds in the past, they may have checked them out I don't know.

SB 10-05-2015 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Sonic30ss (Post 4362692)
Dart lists it at 190 @ 1.900
Comp lists it at 210 @ 1.900
who to believe?

Comp, but, really...You, when you measure it yourself.


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