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JaniH 10-16-2020 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4761854)
janiH.the clamping load differs from different bolts,keep in mind that the big end of the rod gets honed to size with the bolt torqued to spec,if you remove the L19 bolt and install an 8740 or a arp 2000 bolt the big end bore will no longer be round.you don,t want that do you?

Have to check this out. Otherwise if remember right i have not touched my L19 bolts with bare hands 😂so maybe i use them.

sutphen 30 10-16-2020 04:37 PM

you'd have been better off w/ this cam than that abomination of a cam your getting. just saying.

https://www.lunatipower.com/efi-retr...k-289-299.html

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2020 07:34 PM

Not sure how youre getting 9.5:1, using a 13cc dome piston, with quench of .037. Assuming the chambers measure out to 119-121cc, that makes it around 10:1.

i do believe with the cam you have, its gonna make some torque down low. Which sounds like what you asked for. One thing id be careful with, is detonation. Thats alot of conpression for a marine engine, esp with a small cam thats gonna get lugged around at 2500rpm like you want to. Id be very careful with my tuneup, and try to keep the engines water temp as cool as possible. I wouldnt even think of locking the timing out on it.

L19 rod bolts are silly in an engine that wont see north of 5200-5400rpm. Esp with a 4" stroke crank. Youll never be near the piston speed, or breaking point of even the standard 8740 bolts. Rpm is what kills rods. But you have them, so run them. Like Mike T said, dont change bolts unless you plan to have the rods resized.

Im not a fan of peanut ports. However, I think they do have their place in trucks and what not. The reality of it is though, you pay a price with them. For what they do down low, they give up on the big end. Today, a modern oval port, say like an AFR 265 or similar, wont give up anything to the peanuts down low, and blow them away up top. Can and have guys made them flow decent, yea. But no way would i ever spend that much time and money, putting big valves in them, tons of port work, then worry about hitting water ,etc. They just arent the heads you want if going fast is the goal. But speed doesnt seem like is what youre after, so, they should be fine. Most offshore guys here are looking for speed gains. And you dont gain speed in boat by adding low end torque. You gain speed by adding upper end torque (which is horsepower).


JaniH 10-17-2020 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4761969)
Not sure how youre getting 9.5:1, using a 13cc dome piston, with quench of .037. Assuming the chambers measure out to 119-121cc, that makes it around 10:1.

i do believe with the cam you have, its gonna make some torque down low. Which sounds like what you asked for. One thing id be careful with, is detonation. Thats alot of conpression for a marine engine, esp with a small cam thats gonna get lugged around at 2500rpm like you want to. Id be very careful with my tuneup, and try to keep the engines water temp as cool as possible. I wouldnt even think of locking the timing out on it.

L19 rod bolts are silly in an engine that wont see north of 5200-5400rpm. Esp with a 4" stroke crank. Youll never be near the piston speed, or breaking point of even the standard 8740 bolts. Rpm is what kills rods. But you have them, so run them. Like Mike T said, dont change bolts unless you plan to have the rods resized.

Im not a fan of peanut ports. However, I think they do have their place in trucks and what not. The reality of it is though, you pay a price with them. For what they do down low, they give up on the big end. Today, a modern oval port, say like an AFR 265 or similar, wont give up anything to the peanuts down low, and blow them away up top. Can and have guys made them flow decent, yea. But no way would i ever spend that much time and money, putting big valves in them, tons of port work, then worry about hitting water ,etc. They just arent the heads you want if going fast is the goal. But speed doesnt seem like is what youre after, so, they should be fine. Most offshore guys here are looking for speed gains. And you dont gain speed in boat by adding low end torque. You gain speed by adding upper end torque (which is horsepower).

Chambers measured 122.5cc to 123cc, 1cc for bore notches, 0.5cc for piston to wall clearance above 1st piston ring,so should be right around 9.5. Valves are stock size 2.06"/1.72". Nice that you understand what i am after! cruising @2500rpm would be perfect. In theory, if i could spinn my 24" hydro p5x to 5000rpm with 1.5 gear ratio, 14% slip, that would be 65mph. Old 5500lbs 260 stinger is not fast hull anyway. The porting done to these heads is minimal. the valve unshrouding done to the chambers did hurt high lift flow quit a bit, and dont recomend it unless going with bigger valves, but like you said there is no sense anyway. I just hate when people say these 360 castings found from stock 454 330hp engines are useless, 15min bowl cleaning and short turn reshape stock valves/seats and they are in 260cfm range with very nice low lift flow. I have way too much displacement for these heads, that is sure. intake port csa is around 2.3sq" ,hopefully the engine peaks near 5000rpm, that we will find out later.

JaniH 10-17-2020 03:51 AM

Dont know if anyone is interested but i have build thread in restorations and upgrades section, 1988 chris craft stinger 260. Too many hours of blueprinting the bottom, new transom, stringers, paint.

JaniH 11-10-2020 02:13 PM

Crank is In. Main bearing clearances 1-4=0.0031". 5=0.0039". Rods seems to be around 0.0030". Have been wondering my oil pump spring set up, should I shim the stock spring to 60psi Or use the 70psi spring? Melling select 10778 Hi-volume pump.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b8ba150ca9.jpg
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Smitty275 11-10-2020 08:16 PM

550ft/lbs and 425hp

JaniH 11-12-2020 03:08 PM

Pistons are In and approx 0.0014" above the deck, so with 0.039" gasket the quench should be around 0.0376". Connection rod side clearance 0.027".
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...55e5d25863.jpg

JaniH 01-04-2021 03:51 AM

Bought the moroso oil control kit. Definetly not a bolt on stuff. Scraper is set for 0.040" clearance.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9f72c0ed24.jpg
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Oil pump pick up tig welded.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d3647142f7.jpg

mike tkach 01-04-2021 08:07 AM

are those steel freeze
plugs?


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