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stirling 02-04-2008 03:54 PM

what surface drive to choose ?
 
We have a customer with a 1994 Cigarette 46,its rigged with 3 x 575 Hawk supercharged engines and bravo 1 drives.
The owner want us to install 3 x 480 hp Cummins diesels QSB 5,9 L.

What would be the best surface drive too choose ?

We have looked at a triple pulsedrive unit ,we called them for some info and our purpose,and send a few E mails for a price quote ,but received nothing .......

We liked that unit because the Cig has a flat transom ,and with those rudders I assumed the boat would steer great when docking,and the propellors are somewhat protected when backing up in the marina.

They said however when using a triple set up ,the center engine would wear much faster ,and speed would not ,or a little faster than with twin engines and a twin pulsedrive unit ,
is this true ?

If you guys have any ideas about this ,please let me now ,I like to hear real world experience .

We would love to see this big Cig going 85 mph ,or are we dreaming ?

A.J

bor 02-04-2008 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by stirling (Post 2432692)
We have a customer with a 1994 Cigarette 46,its rigged with 3 x 575 Hawk supercharged engines and bravo 1 drives.
The owner want us to install 3 x 480 hp Cummins diesels QSB 5,9 L.

What would be the best surface drive too choose ?

We have looked at a triple pulsedrive unit ,we called them for some info and our purpose,and send a few E mails for a price quote ,but received nothing .......

We liked that unit because the Cig has a flat transom ,and with those rudders I assumed the boat would steer great when docking,and the propellors are somewhat protected when backing up in the marina.

They said however when using a triple set up ,the center engine would wear much faster ,and speed would not ,or a little faster than with twin engines and a twin pulsedrive unit ,
is this true ?

If you guys have any ideas about this ,please let me now ,I like to hear real world experience .

We would love to see this big Cig going 85 mph ,or are we dreaming ?

A.J


when that dream com out I wanna standing next to you !!

f311fr1 02-04-2008 06:25 PM

Call Rik @ Arneson.

spez 02-04-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stirling (Post 2432692)
We have a customer with a 1994 Cigarette 46,its rigged with 3 x 575 Hawk supercharged engines and bravo 1 drives.
The owner want us to install 3 x 480 hp Cummins diesels QSB 5,9 L.

What would be the best surface drive too choose ?

We have looked at a triple pulsedrive unit ,we called them for some info and our purpose,and send a few E mails for a price quote ,but received nothing .......

We liked that unit because the Cig has a flat transom ,and with those rudders I assumed the boat would steer great when docking,and the propellors are somewhat protected when backing up in the marina.

They said however when using a triple set up ,the center engine would wear much faster ,and speed would not ,or a little faster than with twin engines and a twin pulsedrive unit ,
is this true ?

If you guys have any ideas about this ,please let me now ,I like to hear real world experience .

We would love to see this big Cig going 85 mph ,or are we dreaming ?

A.J

dont use pulse first the conpany closed, you are not going to park the boat to any marina especialy if there is a litle air, you are going to have a lot of water inside the boat after 4-6 hours use from the seals or you must try to up and down untill center the axis in the seals. you have no steering in low speed. the only thing is good no promblem with power and the last difficult to find or change propelers
use trimax, arneson and topsystem from italy
i have 3 years pulse in a cig 46 and a cig 41

Rik 02-05-2008 10:57 AM

This, QSB 480 and Arneson ASD8, are factory packaged with Fountain and many other boat manufacturers around the world.

Simple and easy.

Frequency 02-05-2008 04:00 PM

stirling,

I installed a pulsedrive on my 32' twin engine boat in 2004. I'm going back to bravo's because the hull has WAY too much stern lift and there is little I could do to overcome it. If my boat were a Cig Bullet, Mistress or Cafe Racer I would still have the pulsedrive on it today. There are many positives to the pulsedrive and few negatives in a twin engine application. It really is that good.

That being said, my business is driveline dynamics. I have done analysis work on Arneson systems (among others) for nearly twenty years. If you are serious about a surface drive solution on your boat, the Arneson is a very good alternative. :cool-smiley-011:

Jassman 02-05-2008 06:12 PM

On my 07 4300 Nortech I had the Yanmar 480's hooked up to the ASD-8's..great package. Love the ASD-8's...about as trouble free as it comes.

stirling 02-06-2008 01:34 AM

So basically your all saying ,Arneson is the best for our 46 Cigarette ,do you guys have an idea about the performance with twin ,or triple cummins 480 with arnesons ?

Frequency,

I have a Scarab Viper 31 ,do you think you want to sell me the pulsedrive unit ,and will the Viper be a good boat for that drive ?
I think the Viper does not need much bow lift ,it actually has a pad running surface ,and is build very light .


thanks guys for input

stirling

Rik 02-06-2008 06:03 PM

The Arneson is simple, inexpensive, reliable, proven, needs no special hull modifications, available, accepts a wide range of propellers, is well known, is accepted in the market place and adds value to a boat over these one off brands made in someones garage.

So yes, the Arneson is the best choice.


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