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bigo181979 08-01-2008 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2642337)
You are right ,its only the GEARSET in the lower..... 3K if you can find one :grinser010:

I found a gear set for 2k, but like I said if the price is right I just assume have a hole drive that way I have a spare incase, god forbid, i break one:rolleyes:

Biggus 08-03-2008 06:55 PM

Thought I'd jump in here,

Last spring, I sold a pair of Konrad drives to a customer with the exact same package, 31 Chris Cat/SSMII's, Here's a bit of info we gathered for the conversion.

The SSMII is 1" deeper than the TRS

The standard length Konrad 540 is 1.7" shorter than the TRS, we offer spacers from .5-3"

We fitted the drives with 2" spacers, this put the propshaft .7" higher than the SSMII, this is no problem as the old SSMII's were mounted rather deep as the prop selections back then are a long way from what we have to choose from today.

As mentioned by the very satisfied :drink:customers above, if you want to swap out to a drive system that is going to handle the power with ease and not have to re-invent the wheel during a re rig, give me a call sometime, the conversion can be done for relatively short $$

Kurt
715-410-0735

TomFTM 08-05-2008 01:16 PM

if you decide to goto the trs , I have 2 inch spacer kits for them . Tom

jhiguy377 08-05-2008 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2639574)
Tough call on the SSM II's. They're getting very scarce and expensive and they're somewhat fragile. At the same time, a conversion to III's or something like the Konrad is going to be expensive. Most likely you'd never get the $$ back. But if you love the boat and plan to keep it, you really should consider a permanent fix. You can be sure that parts for the II's aren't going to become any more plentiful or any less expensive- maybe now's the time to bite the bullet, instead of getting deeper into a drive that will break again.

Chris, if I remember right the RH TRS drive (or part thereof) is the weaker of the two (RH vs LH) Is the SSMII weaker still or is it equivalent in strength to the TRS? Call me sentimental but I've always wanted a pair of SSMII's off the back of my boat. I know the X-dimension issue, but I love the look and the historical value of the old girls. BTW I baby my drives like crazy. Thanks - Jeff

Chris Sunkin 08-05-2008 03:10 PM

I've never been inside of one- I've always avoided them as they just didn't like big power.

If you want the look, get a set of SSM III's. As for historical value- there's not much. The drive is rare because they sold few- the demand just wasn't there. They weren't any faster than the TRS in virtually all examples but they handled less power.

In the long run, they'll eat you out of house and home- unless youare very gentle. Forget the power upgrade you were thinking about, plus if you break them, you may miss a big chunk of your boating season looking for parts. All those costs add up. It would be a shame to pour thousands into your existing setup to then have to do a drive conversion.

bigo181979 08-05-2008 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by TomFTM (Post 2645246)
if you decide to goto the trs , I have 2 inch spacer kits for them . Tom

just for grinn's how much are the spacers????

SCUBASCARAB 08-05-2008 10:29 PM

Why not just go to trs? The higher propshaft height should increase mph, and TRS are alot more common.

jhiguy377 08-06-2008 12:30 PM

So much for my delusions of putting "cool" SSMIIs on the back of the old Scarab

Chris Sunkin 08-06-2008 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by jhiguy377 (Post 2646360)
So much for my delusions of putting "cool" SSMIIs on the back of the old Scarab

The only time you can see them is on the trailer. My own definition of a "cool" outdrive is one that is tough to break, easy to maintain and affordable to repair. Kinda' rules out the entire Mercruiser product line ;)

jhiguy377 08-06-2008 07:12 PM

Chris, you're always one with the true chit, man - Jeff


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