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CNC 01-26-2009 09:36 AM

#5 Drive oil.....
 
I have read countless threads on Bravo drive oils.... since I have moved up to #5's What works best for them? I am leaning towards Amsoil??? I am told #5's hold gallons rather than quarts ..... What is the recommended interval for changing? and any other p/m that should be preformed?

Randy

DareDevil 01-26-2009 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2786160)
I have read countless threads on Bravo drive oils.... since I have moved up to #5's What works best for them? I am leaning towards Amsoil??? I am told #5's hold gallons rather than quarts ..... What is the recommended interval for changing? and any other p/m that should be preformed?

Randy

Hello Randy ,,,i use the merc High performance oil and do not fill any thing in the res., its only an expansion tank on the #4+5's otherwise it will push it out the bleader on top .

Just fill from botom up, then close top screw and pump a little more.

Amsoil is good too, i quess.

But i always think if its built with that ,,,that you should use that.
U wouldn't stick a dewalt batt in a makita drill just because it fits and works,,,,,,would you ?????!!!!!:ernaehrung004:

EXCESS ENERGY 01-26-2009 12:23 PM

AMSOIL. Use it in #3's and #5's without any issues. BOB.

bob 01-26-2009 10:12 PM

5's with Amsoil.

DareDevil 01-26-2009 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by bob (Post 2786678)
5's with Amsoil.

Ok ,,,then what amsoil ? And what is the diffrents ???

If its better then the merc i change mine.

CNC 01-27-2009 07:22 AM

Well I did some more research ...interesting link though 5 years old... http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...e-oil-one.html . I liked Royal Purple on my XZ .

HotPursuit 01-28-2009 11:02 PM

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Ran 1050 Hp on #3s large shafts for years. The only oil they would live on!!

HotPursuit 01-28-2009 11:08 PM

Also I stated this before they would burn up bearings and gears under 50 hrs with the merc green stuff.. Thats the reason I became a dealer. After 100+ hrs the oil looked like the day it was installed and so did the bearings and gears.

DareDevil 01-29-2009 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2788353)
Also I stated this before they would burn up bearings and gears under 50 hrs with the merc green stuff.. Thats the reason I became a dealer. After 100+ hrs the oil looked like the day it was installed and so did the bearings and gears.

HOT P, can i run this in my crashbox and bearingcarier aswell ????

And how much do u need for case ,shipped to 34207 FL ?

Thanks

seltzer 01-29-2009 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2788353)
Also I stated this before they would burn up bearings and gears under 50 hrs with the merc green stuff.. Thats the reason I became a dealer. After 100+ hrs the oil looked like the day it was installed and so did the bearings and gears.

100 + hours running hard is just asking for trouble with any oil.

HotPursuit 01-29-2009 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by seltzer (Post 2788545)
100 + hours running hard is just asking for trouble with any oil.

:eek: ok Im just a dumb as*!!

HotPursuit 01-29-2009 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2788420)
HOT P, can i run this in my crashbox and bearingcarier aswell ????

And how much do u need for case ,shipped to 34207 FL ?

Thanks

Thats what I ran in My Daytona crash boxes and tail stocks.

About 160. for 12 quarts?? Would need a full address for the correct tax rate and ship amount..
But should that should be close. :D

CNC 01-30-2009 05:57 PM

How many quartz do #5's hold??

kidapache 01-30-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2789581)
How many quartz do #5's hold??

5 gal for both

bob 01-30-2009 10:04 PM

I use the Amsoil AGM product code which is 5 gallons for two drives as Kidapache indicates. Also run it in my drive couplers.

HotPursuit 01-30-2009 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by kidapache (Post 2789584)
5 gal for both

Have them drysumped only 3.5 quarts per drive.
Pick up power and fell better about your 1 mile to a gal habit. Going green and pick up some free HP> :drink:

DareDevil 01-31-2009 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2789738)
Have them drysumped only 3.5 quarts per drive.
Pick up power and fell better about your 1 mile to a gal habit. Going green and pick up some free HP> :drink:

HP,,,how much do u think it will cost to drysump a #4 or 5 ???

Have u seen it done befor ,or is that just a mind thing u have there ???

Would be cool i quess,,and what HP gains do u think it will have +20 or so ?

Cool idea !!

CNC 01-31-2009 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2789738)
Have them drysumped only 3.5 quarts per drive.
Pick up power and fell better about your 1 mile to a gal habit. Going green and pick up some free HP> :drink:

Interesting .......this can be done? more info please...

bob 01-31-2009 09:47 AM

I too would be curious oto hear of potential hp gains. I am though concerned about the negative of damaging a seal and as the drive cools while in the water it fills with seawater. I hear that can be real expensive since there is a limited amount of oil in the drive there is plenty of room for water.

HotPursuit 01-31-2009 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2789876)
Interesting .......this can be done? more info please...

It has been done. Randy @ Marine Drives has done 3s,4s,& 5s. Not much difference if you can complete a dry sump conversion on 6s. I can get some pricing and Hp gains.
The 6s gain about 75-85 hp cant see why the same doesn't hold up for the 5s.
I will talk to Randy later this weekend and post back some pricing. Just have to remember that dry sump quotes dont include repairs- gears,bearings,shafts cant tell until there disassembled if all parts make the cut. :drink:

HotPursuit 01-31-2009 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by bob (Post 2789909)
I too would be curious oto hear of potential hp gains. I am though concerned about the negative of damaging a seal and as the drive cools while in the water it fills with seawater. I hear that can be real expensive since there is a limited amount of oil in the drive there is plenty of room for water.


Thats only a problem on the total dry sumps that run tanks in the boat and a pump on the engine.The second and third seal never see oil anyway. First seal faces in and the second and third seal face out.
Mercs drysumps still hold enough oil when idle to the top skeg. When you running it drops down to right above the nose cone. Not as fast as a total drysump but less tanks,hoses,pumps and water!!
I check mine after every hard day and so far no problems.

HotPursuit 01-31-2009 08:44 PM

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Few shots of my conversion. Notice the #6 pump and filter is located in the nose cone.

HotPursuit 01-31-2009 08:52 PM

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wet sump to dry with new skegs

marinetrans 01-31-2009 09:51 PM

Six drive gears hold up better w/just a spray of oil rather than submerged in oil we found.Gears submerged in oil had higher failure rates and the newer upper gear sets are nice.

HotPursuit 02-01-2009 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by marinetrans (Post 2790245)
Six drive gears hold up better w/just a spray of oil rather than submerged in oil we found.Gears submerged in oil had higher failure rates and the newer upper gear sets are nice.

I agree!!!

CNC 02-13-2009 08:12 AM

Ok, I've decided on Amsoil severe duty gear lube.. now which weight 75w-90 or 75w-110?? and why?

DareDevil 02-13-2009 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2799389)
Ok, I've decided on Amsoil severe duty gear lube.. now which weight 75w-90 or 75w-110?? and why?

I heard 110 ,,,but i could not tell u why . ?!

Also heard LUCAS oil is not bad.:party-smiley-004:

CNC 07-12-2009 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2799389)
Ok, I've decided on Amsoil severe duty gear lube.. now which weight 75w-90 or ?? and why?

I guess it's Amsoil 75w-110?? Where is the cheapest place to buy??

I need gallons (5) rather than quarts....


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