Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > Drives and Lower Units
Are new gears noisy? >

Are new gears noisy?

Notices

Are new gears noisy?

Thread Tools
 
Old 04-23-2009 | 10:17 PM
  #1  
US1 Fountain's Avatar
Thread Starter
Ginger or Mary Ann?
25 Year Member
Charter Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 11,030
Likes: 9
From: L
Default Are new gears noisy?

Rebuilt 1 of my lower B1's with all new gears, bearings and verticle shaft. Pinion depth, backlash and preloads all done by the book. When turning the prop by hand, the lower gears meshing is noticable noisier. It's every tooth meshing that I can hear. Sounds like a drive with no oil. Just curious if this is normal until the drive has been ran under power and the gears have had a chance to break in. Thanks
__________________
Some people are like Slinkies - Not really good for anything, but they
bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
US1 Fountain is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 04:48 AM
  #2  
Mr Gadgets's Avatar
Charter Member #601
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,276
Likes: 5
From: Holland, Mi USA.
Default

That doesn't sound right.. I setup a used set of gears and they were noisy like that and I put another set in and they were much quieter. I ran the drive with a drill and put a slight load on the propshaft and the noise got much worse...

You know the lash is good. All you can do is run it and see if it quiets down. Are you positive the race seated in front of the driven gear and it isn't causing the gear to be tilted?? That is the only thing I can think of that would cause it.. If it did seat good.. then I can only think it is the gears themselves..
Can you feel them mesh, see any wiggle on the torque meter when you roll it??

Good luck with it.. keep an eye on it, and the magnets. ??

Dick
Mr Gadgets is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 07:04 AM
  #3  
Registered
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 468
Likes: 0
From: Union, NE
Default

It sounds like you have them set up to tight and the gears are bottoming out on each other.
waconda is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 03:48 PM
  #4  
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,998
Likes: 127
From: Lees Summit ~ LOTO 10MM
Default

Originally Posted by US1 Fountain
Rebuilt 1 of my lower B1's with all new gears, bearings and verticle shaft. Pinion depth, backlash and preloads all done by the book. When turning the prop by hand, the lower gears meshing is noticable noisier. It's every tooth meshing that I can hear. Sounds like a drive with no oil. Just curious if this is normal until the drive has been ran under power and the gears have had a chance to break in. Thanks
Your gears should make a slight noise when turning by hand but if they are loud, i agree that you may have them too tight. If not, then they go BYE BYE like mine did
endeavor1 is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 05:20 PM
  #5  
US1 Fountain's Avatar
Thread Starter
Ginger or Mary Ann?
25 Year Member
Charter Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 11,030
Likes: 9
From: L
Default

Everything was setup to specs and double checked. When comparing to my other drive, I'd say it's twice as loud.

Can't say if the race is seated, but I'd have to think it is. I made the race installer with a long shaft on it to extend out the housing by a good amount. I also made a locator that fits in the housing end that holds the installer shaft straight and centered. Then I'll drive the race in until solid.

I didn't see any jumping on the dial while setting the preload and don't feel anything 'catching' when spun by hand slowly, so have to assume there is no binding. If that is what is being meant as too tight; no clearances.
__________________
Some people are like Slinkies - Not really good for anything, but they
bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
US1 Fountain is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 06:41 PM
  #6  
Mr Gadgets's Avatar
Charter Member #601
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,276
Likes: 5
From: Holland, Mi USA.
Default

What lash specs did you end up with and how much variation around the gear??

The used set I put in and was noisy, I loosened the lash up and it was louder. Another used set and they were quiet..

If it sounded solid when the race seated it is there.. I sand the leading edge on the race so when pressed in, it won't catch any metal and end up under the race. I doubt that happened in your case, since you had a centering device for your driving shaft.

It might just be a bad set of gears.. The monday forging dies.. I am less impressed with merc gears everytime I look at them.
If you dont feel any binding, and you know your assembly techiques are solid, I would run it for a while and see if it quiets down. A couple of hours under load and some break in time, might do it. Keep an eye on it, spin that prop every chance you get.. And take a peak at the magnet also..
Good luck.. let us know how it goes.
Mr Gadgets is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-2009 | 07:13 PM
  #7  
US1 Fountain's Avatar
Thread Starter
Ginger or Mary Ann?
25 Year Member
Charter Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 11,030
Likes: 9
From: L
Default

Set right at .025 for the pinion height. Checked around the gear at different locations. All was good and same. Plus the noise is consistant all the way around. Not just in spots that would lead me to believe I have some run out/tight spots.
Preload on the veticle shaft @ 4 in. lbs.
Backlash @ .012-.013.
Total propshaft preload was 13 in.lbs. (new bearings) That includes the 4 in. lbs for the verticle shaft preload.

I'll give it a run and check often. Easy to do since boat is kept on lift.



Thanks Dick.
__________________
Some people are like Slinkies - Not really good for anything, but they
bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

Last edited by US1 Fountain; 04-24-2009 at 07:16 PM.
US1 Fountain is offline  
Reply
Old 04-26-2009 | 08:50 AM
  #8  
johnnyboatman's Avatar
Platinum Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,358
Likes: 0
From: NO WHERE
Default

my bmaxs sound the same, 1 is smooth the other is smooth but not like the other.
johnnyboatman is offline  
Reply
Old 04-26-2009 | 11:46 AM
  #9  
US1 Fountain's Avatar
Thread Starter
Ginger or Mary Ann?
25 Year Member
Charter Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 11,030
Likes: 9
From: L
Default

It's just bugging me now, so picked up a new load ring and going to tear it apart for a looky see. I don't want to chance damaging my brand new upper, plus while at the dealership I spun all the B1 drives on the showroom. None sounded like mine.
__________________
Some people are like Slinkies - Not really good for anything, but they
bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
US1 Fountain is offline  
Reply
Old 04-28-2009 | 08:04 PM
  #10  
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Sarsota,FL
Default

You sound like you know what you are doing so don't take it "wrong" but is it possible the pinion bearing is not fully seated up in the housing rubbing the pinion gear? I've seen that more than once.
rhinoLX is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.