Arneson or SCX
10-02-2009, 10:58 AM
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If I go with the Arneson I will use the bravo conversion with a
ASD7M. Its still some glass work but nothing I cant handle.
I am pretty sure I am going to go with a 557ci, AFR heads, solid rollor 6500 rpm, 8.3-8.5 compression, DFI and a Procharger M5SC (being a procharger dealer I think its the best way to go, was thinking whipple 5L, but pretty sure the Procharger and DFI will be the ticket, nothing like EFI) Plus I will not have to cut a hole in the motor cover. The 2002 with the whipple needed a hole cut. He's 104MPH the dyno sheet says about 900hp so I am sure to get 1000hp plus and expect 110-115MPH. If I decied tio keep and freshen my motor then I will go with a dart tall deck and more cubes.
I may be pulling the motor after tomorrows run its called the "Last Blast" should be fun. Im skipping out from work for the day.
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
ASD7M. Its still some glass work but nothing I cant handle.
I am pretty sure I am going to go with a 557ci, AFR heads, solid rollor 6500 rpm, 8.3-8.5 compression, DFI and a Procharger M5SC (being a procharger dealer I think its the best way to go, was thinking whipple 5L, but pretty sure the Procharger and DFI will be the ticket, nothing like EFI) Plus I will not have to cut a hole in the motor cover. The 2002 with the whipple needed a hole cut. He's 104MPH the dyno sheet says about 900hp so I am sure to get 1000hp plus and expect 110-115MPH. If I decied tio keep and freshen my motor then I will go with a dart tall deck and more cubes.
I may be pulling the motor after tomorrows run its called the "Last Blast" should be fun. Im skipping out from work for the day.
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
10-02-2009, 01:32 PM
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If I go with the Arneson I will use the bravo conversion with a
ASD7M. Its still some glass work but nothing I cant handle.
I am pretty sure I am going to go with a 557ci, AFR heads, solid rollor 6500 rpm, 8.3-8.5 compression, DFI and a Procharger M5SC (being a procharger dealer I think its the best way to go, was thinking whipple 5L, but pretty sure the Procharger and DFI will be the ticket, nothing like EFI) Plus I will not have to cut a hole in the motor cover. The 2002 with the whipple needed a hole cut. He's 104MPH the dyno sheet says about 900hp so I am sure to get 1000hp plus and expect 110-115MPH. If I decied tio keep and freshen my motor then I will go with a dart tall deck and more cubes.
I may be pulling the motor after tomorrows run its called the "Last Blast" should be fun. Im skipping out from work for the day.
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
ASD7M. Its still some glass work but nothing I cant handle.
I am pretty sure I am going to go with a 557ci, AFR heads, solid rollor 6500 rpm, 8.3-8.5 compression, DFI and a Procharger M5SC (being a procharger dealer I think its the best way to go, was thinking whipple 5L, but pretty sure the Procharger and DFI will be the ticket, nothing like EFI) Plus I will not have to cut a hole in the motor cover. The 2002 with the whipple needed a hole cut. He's 104MPH the dyno sheet says about 900hp so I am sure to get 1000hp plus and expect 110-115MPH. If I decied tio keep and freshen my motor then I will go with a dart tall deck and more cubes.
I may be pulling the motor after tomorrows run its called the "Last Blast" should be fun. Im skipping out from work for the day.
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
http://www.arneson-industries.com/pa...ducts&id=asd7m
The SCX is rated for up to 900hp, and you already no what your boat likes with the Bravo style...good luck and keep us posted
10-02-2009, 01:57 PM
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The other issue is my prop shaft. The SCX will only allow a -2 lower, I have a -3 and already reglasssed the trans so I am less than 1/2" from the swim platform, I cant go any higher there. Going back down will adversely effect my handling. I would go with the SCX but maybe they will come up with an upper that will accommodate the -3 lower.
I see the Torque recommendations on the 7M, Rik said 1000hp is not a problem? Plus I should gain some free speed with the Arneson. Granted Rik is trying to sell a product, he said its a bolt on with a little glass work which I am more than capable of doing. he will get me on track with a prop. What R&D are you talking about? I hear this a lot. I don't want to put this think on then have a terrible handling boat.. Many unknowns.
I am still not convinced of what way to go. If the SCX would mate with a -3 it would make my decission easier.
Thanks,
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
I see the Torque recommendations on the 7M, Rik said 1000hp is not a problem? Plus I should gain some free speed with the Arneson. Granted Rik is trying to sell a product, he said its a bolt on with a little glass work which I am more than capable of doing. he will get me on track with a prop. What R&D are you talking about? I hear this a lot. I don't want to put this think on then have a terrible handling boat.. Many unknowns.
I am still not convinced of what way to go. If the SCX would mate with a -3 it would make my decission easier.
Thanks,
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
10-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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It sounds like a good plan to me Don.
I have personally seen 102mph in this boat with an N/A JC motor that dynoed just under 800hp.
John (Lightspeed) ran a best of 106mph with this boat when it was new.
I am thinking that 1000+hp will get you over 115mph, especially with a well set up Arneson.
I have personally seen 102mph in this boat with an N/A JC motor that dynoed just under 800hp.
John (Lightspeed) ran a best of 106mph with this boat when it was new.
I am thinking that 1000+hp will get you over 115mph, especially with a well set up Arneson.
10-02-2009, 03:48 PM
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The other issue is my prop shaft. The SCX will only allow a -2 lower, I have a -3 and already reglasssed the trans so I am less than 1/2" from the swim platform, I cant go any higher there. Going back down will adversely effect my handling. I would go with the SCX but maybe they will come up with an upper that will accommodate the -3 lower.
I see the Torque recommendations on the 7M, Rik said 1000hp is not a problem? Plus I should gain some free speed with the Arneson. Granted Rik is trying to sell a product, he said its a bolt on with a little glass work which I am more than capable of doing. he will get me on track with a prop. What R&D are you talking about? I hear this a lot. I don't want to put this think on then have a terrible handling boat.. Many unknowns.
I am still not convinced of what way to go. If the SCX would mate with a -3 it would make my decission easier.
Thanks,
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
I see the Torque recommendations on the 7M, Rik said 1000hp is not a problem? Plus I should gain some free speed with the Arneson. Granted Rik is trying to sell a product, he said its a bolt on with a little glass work which I am more than capable of doing. he will get me on track with a prop. What R&D are you talking about? I hear this a lot. I don't want to put this think on then have a terrible handling boat.. Many unknowns.
I am still not convinced of what way to go. If the SCX would mate with a -3 it would make my decission easier.
Thanks,
Don
Glen Harbor Marina
The Arnesons are the real deal...they work..and will handle way more power than any bravo drive. Ive been on 4 Arneson boats in which Ive driven 3..and owned one. Hands down my favorite. Simplistic in design, reduced drag, increased speeds, easy to work on, and in-expensive in comparison. Boating is suppose to be fun, why worry about breaking down.. Jeff
10-02-2009, 08:20 PM
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The Arnesons are the real deal...they work..and will handle way more power than any bravo drive. Ive been on 4 Arneson boats in which Ive driven 3..and owned one. Hands down my favorite. Simplistic in design, reduced drag, increased speeds, easy to work on, and in-expensive in comparison. Boating is suppose to be fun, why worry about breaking down.. Jeff
Are any of them single V bottoms with an Arneson? People are saying they are hard to set up to run safe @ high speed. I hear lots of R&D.
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Don
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10-02-2009, 11:28 PM
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Im sure there are me and several others would like to see the results of the arneson drive set up that have single engine v bottoms that being me also because in future I want to get a 28twin step pantera with close to same power range and blower setup sleeper style (what you cant see wont hurt you until you get bitten by it). I really would like to know how it turns out if you go that route with arneson drive. I honestly would use the asd8 with the new coan two speed tranny since I will be building it with new hull but in your case you cant easily do that with out alot of work
10-03-2009, 08:59 AM
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Don, no they weren't. They were 2 Hustlers 33, and 38.. both ASD-6's, and 2 Nor-Techs, ASD-8's. There is a 28 Active Thunder that has done what you are talking about, single application, I'll try and get some info from the A.T. factory on what had to be done, if any additional R&D vs a bravo boat. From talking with Rik, its a direct bolt up, uses the same holes. Blades when trimmed are to be 3/4" above the running surface. Also on you tube I found this. Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ24znRbjNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3F2q5hlubw
