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Old 09-21-2010 | 07:47 PM
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Lower photo depicts a SCX upper and SCX lower with a two inch prop shaft to run cleavers.

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2" Shaft? I thought the #6 ran the interchangeable hub type props with 1 1/4" shafts. School me here.

I guess what I am asking is what would it take to run a #6 style small hub cleaver on my XR. I have always wanted to try a tru cleaver on my cat.
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Old 09-21-2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets
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My friend with the 36' Apache/SCX/SCX, did not loose 8mph. He was running within 2mph of what he was with the XRs. He has made some changes to his intercooler setups and he is going as fast as he was before.. this is only 96-97mph, not 120mph like Kap. The intercooler mods could only be worth 25-50hp to gain back his lost 2mph.
If Kap hasnt broken his SCX.. I think you will need a lot more power to break one.
Just my .02...
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My boat does 98-100 mph. Initially when I got my SCX upper, I lost aproximately 3 mph in back to back comparisons with a SC upper...using the same lower unit. I then realized that the SCX upper was heavier and moved the prop 3/4 inch reward. I purchased a 1" shortie, and put a .5" spacer in it. I was now .5 mph slower with the SCX upper as compared to the SC upper. I tried using the shorter SC lower on the SC upper, and it was slower than the SCX/SC combo.

Data:
SC upper/SC lower / standard length = 100.2mph
SCX upper/SC lower / .5" shorter = 99.8 mph
SC upper/SC lower / .5" shorter = 98.7 mph
SCX upper/SC lower / standard length = 97.5 mph

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Old 09-21-2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CB-BLR
My boat does 98-100 mph. Initially when I got my SCX upper, I lost aproximately 3 mph in back to back comparisons with a SC upper...using the same lower unit. I then realized that the SCX upper was heavier and moved the prop 3/4 inch reward. I purchased a 1" shortie, and put a .5" spacer in it. I was now .5 mph slower with the SCX upper as compared to the SC upper. I tried using the shorter SC lower on the SC upper, and it was slower than the SCX/SC combo.

Data:
SC upper/SC lower / standard length = 100.2mph
SCX upper/SC lower / .5" shorter = 99.8 mph
SC upper/SC lower / .5" shorter = 98.7 mph
SCX upper/SC lower / standard length = 97.5 mph

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I have 930hp +/-
Good info thanks. If I get a scx I would want to run the upper and lower scx for strength. Have you tried a scx lower on your boat?
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Old 09-21-2010 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
Good info thanks. If I get a scx I would want to run the upper and lower scx for strength. Have you tried a scx lower on your boat?
No, I have not tried a SCX lower on my boat. I did have IMCO tell me that unless you were running the lowers in full surfacing mode, that the SCX lower would be slower than the SC lower. By how much... I dunno.

I have also noted that on IMCO's 34 Nordic cat... that they ran SCX uppers with SC lowers... behind 900 hp motors.

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Old 09-21-2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets
offshorexcursion,
My friend with the 36' Apache/SCX/SCX, did not loose 8mph. He was running within 2mph of what he was with the XRs. He has made some changes to his intercooler setups and he is going as fast as he was before.. this is only 96-97mph, not 120mph like Kap. The intercooler mods could only be worth 25-50hp to gain back his lost 2mph.
If Kap hasnt broken his SCX.. I think you will need a lot more power to break one.
Just my .02...
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I think you might want to ask KAP about his SCX.. Pretty certain it is toast. Didn't the Apache raise the X dimension as well or was that a different boat? If the same then this would get some of the speed back that was lost.
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Old 09-21-2010 | 09:50 PM
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Rik, what's the MSRP for your Bravo conversion? PM me if you'd rather.
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Old 09-21-2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rik
I think you might want to ask KAP about his SCX.. Pretty certain it is toast. Didn't the Apache raise the X dimension as well or was that a different boat? If the same then this would get some of the speed back that was lost.
KAP broke the gears in his SC lower.

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Old 09-22-2010 | 12:13 AM
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Rik, what's the MSRP for your Bravo conversion? PM me if you'd rather.
$23K per side complete with the items listed on our flyer which is basically everything other than propeller.

A few things are taken for granted on applications such as the boat already has full hydraulic steering as we supply the correct helm unit but the internal plumbing is not included for example and the boat has thru transom exhaust and a thru hull water pickup as the Arneson Surface Drives have no water pickup or exhaust system incorporated in them.

But for the most part, all the bolts, nuts, washers, studs, indicator clamps, etc. are in the kits.

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Old 09-22-2010 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CB-BLR
KAP broke the gears in his SC lower.

Chris
Sorry you are correct. The SCX cost him 15 mph..
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Old 09-22-2010 | 01:11 AM
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If the scx lower didn't slow boats down so much it sounds like it would be the way to go because by running a sc lower your back to square one of chewing up merc lower gears, I have chewed up plenty of them (1050 hp/ft lbs of tq), Smitty

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