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B_Schutz 05-24-2010 09:34 AM

Whats a good replacement for bravo1 that will hold 600hp??
 
My bravo 1 shredded the upper bevel gear. While Im replacing the outdrive, what outdrive should I get in anticipation of external steering, and a 540cid w 600hp. Ive been looking at Bravo xr???

GB 05-24-2010 11:10 AM

Konrad and be done with it.

t500hps 05-24-2010 02:13 PM

I've got an XR that should hold up behing that motor......it was my spare.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...-parts-5k.html

JasonSmith 05-24-2010 05:32 PM

How much do you want to spend? A Konrad will take a transmission & new transom assembly. An XR would be the least expensive, however they break pretty often in applications over 550 hp.
For a "bolt on" drive the XR is going to br the least expensive route. IMCO has a new SCX drive that is really holding up to some big numbers & it doesn't take a transmission.
Their SC drive is what I run & I only have broke the same one 3 times in 3 seasons. The SC uses Mercruiser gears so you're not ganing an advantage there.
If I were in your position I would look for an IMCO SC drive, then a XR. The IMCO has an advantage over the XR because of the case reinforcing.

waconda 05-24-2010 06:02 PM

I heard that the SCX drive is very noisey and getting it proped correct is not easy.

I still like the BMAX.

Uncle Dave 05-24-2010 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3118717)
I heard that the SCX drive is very noisey and getting it proped correct is not easy.

I still like the BMAX.

Bmax is out bus or close and up fro sale from what I hear.

Never seen Konrad boat out here in LA or Havasu (Im sure there are I just havent seen them)

The imco SC and teague platinum are almost identical and a notch above the stock XR and can hold 600 beans pretty easy.

The Imco SCX is the beefy one. It uses non stock gears- just ordered one last week. Haven heard anything about noise and I know several that own them, I hear it costs power to run more so than a bravo but not objectionable below 900HP. X-dimension doesnt change.

Uncle Dave

DollaBill 05-24-2010 06:53 PM

why did it break in the first place? Too hard out of the hole? throttling in rough water? they don't just "break" most of the time

wjb21ndtown 05-24-2010 06:55 PM

Have you considered an arneson?

Airpacker 05-24-2010 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3118717)
I heard that the SCX drive is very noisey and getting it proped correct is not easy.

I still like the BMAX.

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Having owned and abused and broken Bravos, XR's and even Black Hawks, I can truely say my SCX upper / SC lower combo is the smoothest, quietest drive I have ever had.

As for propping? What does the drive have to do with propping?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Airpacker 05-24-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3118750)
why did it break in the first place? Too hard out of the hole? throttling in rough water? they don't just "break" most of the time

Bill, are you drunk?

Bravos break just for chits and giggles.

Gear teeth spit off, towers break, caps crack, and on and on.

Quinlan 05-24-2010 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3118810)
Bill, are you drunk?

Bravos break just for chits and giggles.

Gear teeth spit off, towers break, caps crack, and on and on.

What kind of power are you running?

waconda 05-24-2010 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3118804)
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Having owned and abused and broken Bravos, XR's and even Black Hawks, I can truely say my SCX upper / SC lower combo is the smoothest, quietest drive I have ever had.

As for propping? What does the drive have to do with propping?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

The SCX bullet on the lower is bigger than the hub on the prop, so this creates a cavitating problem. Why do you think all the people that buy one have issues with getting the correct prop?

waconda 05-24-2010 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3118737)
Bmax is out bus or close and up fro sale from what I hear.

Never seen Konrad boat out here in LA or Havasu (Im sure there are I just havent seen them)

The imco SC and teague platinum are almost identical and a notch above the stock XR and can hold 600 beans pretty easy.

The Imco SCX is the beefy one. It uses non stock gears- just ordered one last week. Haven heard anything about noise and I know several that own them, I hear it costs power to run more so than a bravo but not objectionable below 900HP. X-dimension doesnt change.

Uncle Dave

Yes BMax is being bought out and there should be an announcement coming out soon.

Uncle Dave 05-24-2010 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3118908)
The SCX bullet on the lower is bigger than the hub on the prop, so this creates a cavitating problem. Why do you think all the people that buy one have issues with getting the correct prop?

The hot setup is to use the SCX upper with the SC lower.
- not the SCX lower-
prop problem solved.

Which guys?
Can you post some links so I can see what they are doing?

Uncle dave

Airpacker 05-25-2010 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 3118822)
What kind of power are you running?

I was running 575hp then. Switched to the SCX upper / SC combo now due to 900hp upgrade.

Baja525EFI 07-17-2010 03:34 PM

how much is the scx/sc combo? Is is a direct bolt on for the xr? thanks.

firehawkcat 07-17-2010 05:11 PM

I'm running a teague platinum xr with 600 hp

brian41 07-18-2010 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by Baja525EFI (Post 3161358)
how much is the scx/sc combo? Is is a direct bolt on for the xr? thanks.

The SCX upper with SC lower can be had for about $13K but you will need to replace the helmet on your transom assembly to mate the SCX to your boat.

Jassman 07-18-2010 07:08 AM

http://www.arneson-industries.com/

asd-7's

Baja525EFI 07-18-2010 11:57 AM

How much would the Arneson set me back?

JasonSmith 07-18-2010 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Baja525EFI (Post 3161744)
How much would the Arneson set me back?

What I've seen for twins is about $40k. Transmissions, boxes, drives, hydraulics & propellers.

tomuchstuff 07-18-2010 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 3161761)
What I've seen for twins is about $40k. Transmissions, boxes, drives, hydraulics & propellers.

I have a set of 1720's thrust tubes.. on ebay, 2200,, parts to finish around 1500 to $2000 each drive, trannys velvet or zf's can range from 200 used to I think the bam is like 1400.....

if you have engine room you can run this set up for $35000 less then the asd6...

take a look
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...eson-asd6.html

I can also give you the email of 3 guys with asd 6's from 9k each to 5k for a set of ccw 1721 drop boxes...

btw
in line drives can take more power,, there are no gears, no chains just a shaft and ujoint. that is why they sell a hi power gear set at arneson... that being seed most mono hull gas out drive boats are not a good fit for in line arnesons.. scarabs being one make.

Back4More 07-21-2010 07:17 PM

Bmax uppers with cyro geared SC lowers.


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