Arneson also has a year warranty on the Bravo conversion when used in the the proper application.

So if I'm reading this correct the Arneson/Bravo conversions are
$23,125 each? $46250.00 for 2. That's 6.6 XR drives at $7K ea. I've blown 2 XR's in the last 2 years, now I'm at $14000. I just wish they were more affordable for the aftermarket.

Plus misc. but you wouldn't have to worry about breaking them and you'll likely be faster and get better fuel milage.

I thought I read somewhere in the past they were giving a warranty on the SCX????

Great read on the new drive. Just wish there was more testing data out there on the -4's to make a decision. I too thought about going with the new SCX's -4s until I found a set of slightly used ASD-7s for sale. FYI, I am in the process of having a 38 Donzi ZRC converted from side-by-side Bravo set up to staggered Arneson ASD-7s. I'll be posting updates as it progresses to let everyone know how it turns out.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...posit-zrc.html


Hope someone gets a set of -4 IMCO's on a twin V soon for a before and after comparison.

That sould be an awesome set-up on your zrc 700-arneson,i have the -3 imco on my zrc would love to try the -4 and 6 style prop to see the acual results ,of course adding a set of whipples and the -4 would be the real way to go just need to hit the loto

Your boat is awesome. Beautiful paint job too.. I love the way PPI did your interior -you happy with the way everything turned out? Would you do anything different?

I want that 38 Fountain. Some nice Arnesons you have there, i bet you got a good deal on them.

I got a good deal on them from a good guy - thanks :)

Hey congrats on the new ride/package. Ya had a lot of work time and money in the Fountain.Thats going to make someone a nice project!!

Rob:drink:

If you replace the drives before they go boom again, you can retrive 5k+ pr. drive alone that way. There is also the entire steering system from the bravo setup to sell, since the ASD#7M comes with a new one. If you have extension boxes to sell, there is money in those too. Depending on what you have, you would be able to sell an intire B1XR setup for 10-15k+ depending on boxes, state ect. So it's more like 4-5 drives, not 6.6.

Thanks Rob,

It's not much of a project though, just drop in some engines and exhaust - everything else is there. I feel like I am giving that boat away but then I also feel like I stole the Donzi,so I guess it evens out.

What a great time to buy a boat if you don't already have one though.

Congrats Robert :)

Thanks Rob :)

I guess I didnt word that right:drink:ya know what I mean like ya said its a drop in,Like Someone thats got a older boat with some money/power in the motors could easily up grade boats with a just like new boat.Hey good luck on it and keep us posted on the Donzi,its going to be nice not have to baby sit outdrives.

Rob:ernaehrung004:

Well they say these Arnesons are bullet proof. With me on the throttles that theory will be put to test :)

Are you still running the B-max's?

I didn't see anyone respond to my question., is there a warranty on the SCX?

If I could sell my ITS drives and XR's for 20K I would consider Arnesons. I just don't think in this market it will happen. I've been trying to sell 2 Bravo 1 sweep backs for 2 months and have had no offers

I called IMCO yesterday and asked 3 times if there was a wrnty on the SCX. They seemed to beat around the bush and say stuff like "we have no way to tell what Hp you are running, etc etc etc bla bla bla" eventually telling me there was no wrnty. So I say "I swear there used to be a 1 year on the SCX". They reply "no that was only on the SC when combined with an ilmor engine". Ok

So I triple checked, no wrnty on the SCX or SCX4 either.

I also asked what HP and TQ the SCX and SCX4 are rated for. Beat around the bush again with "we run over 1000hp through it, bla bla etc etc". But finally said 800 ft/lbs.

The customer service at IMCO is horrible compared to John and the bravo shop (BMAX) or RIK at Arneson.

John and RIK are excited to talk to the customer and looking forward to helping in the future.

IMCO could care, have no passionate recommendations, make no small talk, etc.

They treated me like crap in the past also when I called about breaking a vertical shaft in my SC. They could care, made it a point to blame me, and did not care if I bought a pair of SCX drives to upgrade to.

I also have 2 close friends with similiar phone calls.

IMO Imco is like a bank, we need them more than they need us......

I sold my scx uppers/ sc lowers last week and placed an order with IMCO for a pair of scx4 drives, i ran my scx/sc combo for 2 years with no problems with the uppers and the only failure i experienced was with the 1.25inch imco propshafts breaking. My new scx4 drives are coming with #6 propshafts so broken shaft problems will be gone. My boat is fairly light compared to some others out there and even tho i will be pushing more hp then imco recommends i doubt that i will have any drive related failures. My old scx uppers took the power no problem. I believe that Kap posted something about the gear sets being 98% larger then the standard imco/xr gears so these drives are very strong.

Yea still got them.Hey get some rooster tail vids when ya get it going:drink:

I had the same response when I blew two Extreme SC's in less than 20 hrs on 720 hp/tq. They rated the Extreme SC's to 800 hp as well. The response was; what part of no warranty don't you understand. Then they proceeded to try and blame me for my idle being at a 950 rpms. I sold them and never went back to their products.

I bought new BMax HT's with 2 yr warranty they were offereing at the time. I had an issue with the coupler between the upper and the lower on my 2nd season behind 838 hp and I shipped both drives back to them over the winter and they refreshed both drives free of charge. :drink:

Dean, the old owner, was difficult to deal with and took a very long time but I eventually got my drives back. Again, free of charge.

The new owner seems like a much more stand-up guy and so far I haven't used his services but did buy some oil, a reseviour and some o-ring kits and the customer services has been really good.

I'll be tearing my BMax's down this winter for a winter refresh.

The last time I talked to Imco about the -4, they said the drives would start shipping at the end of December or first of January. So, has anyone gotten an early Christmas gift??

Mine should be ready after the 1st or sometime in jan according to Rick .

Awesome!! Please keep us updated.

Will do , got a few months to go ha ha .

What, does the water get hard in Minn also!! :( It's going to be long winter!!

Bow truster too? :D

????????

A surface style drive running a surface style prop will all dock alike.

SCX4, Arneson, #6, NXT, M8, Indy

took the words right out of my mouth

Besides 575, does anyone else have the -4's ordered?

This is a little of topic but did anybody notice that imco has some new pics of the standard scx on there website.It now looks like it has the same bullet on lower case as the scx-4.

looks like an SC lower to me.

I will look at it again .Good call

your right,I feel like a dumb ass. :lolhit:

I would like to know about prop size. When you go from a standard type Bravo to the -4 Imco what happens to the prop size? Does it go up? I know the -4 will run #6 props but just interested to know what happens size wise. Also when someone run a -4 on a TS Tiger or a TS Top Gun I would like to hear how it works.

Cigaretteman

I was running a 36 pitch 6 blade bravos on my scx/sc setup, so i called jeff at herring and he's building me a set of 36 pitch 5 blade #6 props for my scx4s, the diameter on the new props will be 16.5" and the bravo style props were 15.25".
Herring seems to be confident that i will be ok with the same pitch i was using before. If the new props don't work herring will trade them back for a set that will work.:drink:

So Jason, it sounds as if you have them ordered, do you have an ETA from Imco? I'm seriously considering these drives, I just wish there was more information out there, guess that's a problem when they haven't made it to the water yet........

I was told on dec 10th that they would be shipping me my new drives within 3-4 weeks, I'm guessing that ill be seeing them the first week or 2 into january. I strongly believe that these drives will be just as reliable as the original scx uppers were. the gears are the same as the original scx in both the uppers and lowers. Imco did their homework on this drive. Its going to be nice not to have to worry about breaking sc lowers anymore. Im going to be putting over 1175/tq and 1325hp to these drives in a fairly light boat and i will post on this site how they are holding up and how my boat reacted to the change in drives/props.