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cdail28590 05-02-2011 09:51 AM

Drive ratio
 
How can you tell if your Bravo is a 1.5/1 or a 1.36/1 drive? My boat had a supercharged 502 in it and now it has a NA 468 making 450 hp and it wont turn over 4400 rpm with a 25 p mirage. Everyone is saying I should be able to easily turn over 5,000 with this combo. So I was thinking making the ratios in the drive are different. There are no numbers on the drive anywhere to tell. Is it possible to tell the drive ratio without tearing the drive apart?

A.O. Razor 05-02-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cdail28590 (Post 3392042)
How can you tell if your Bravo is a 1.5/1 or a 1.36/1 drive? My boat had a supercharged 502 in it and now it has a NA 468 making 450 hp and it wont turn over 4400 rpm with a 25 p mirage. Everyone is saying I should be able to easily turn over 5,000 with this combo. So I was thinking making the ratios in the drive are different. There are no numbers on the drive anywhere to tell. Is it possible to tell the drive ratio without tearing the drive apart?

Normally it would be on the upper part of your drive like this.

What boat is this package in? To spin a 25 @ 5000 should put you around 73-75 mph. What is your top end goal? If possible, find your serial number and contact mercury, or your local merc shop.

UrbanDisturbance 05-02-2011 10:34 AM

I called Mercury and gave them my serial number. They told me what gear ratio I had.

cdail28590 05-03-2011 04:23 PM

There is no serial # on the side of the drive. There is a serial # on the outer transom assembly. My boat is 24 Python and I have a aritcle where one of these boats came from the factory with a supercharged 454 and a 1.36 drive. I know my prop has had some work done to it as the tips have been cut down so I don't think I would call it a true Mirage 25p. I was going to try my buddies bravo 26 and 23 mirage + this weekend but I didn't get a chance.

JMS322 05-03-2011 04:56 PM

The 26 Bravo 1 will lower your rpm even further. What is your gps speed with the 25 @ 4400rpm.

Hard Charger 05-03-2011 04:59 PM

What HP and speed did you have with the supercharged motor? I owned a 24' Python w/ stock 502 MPI B1 1.5 gears. It would run 72 gps.

What does the new motor have in it? And did you use a dyno. That way you can tell excatly where your power curve is.

The reason I ask is becasue 2 weeks ago I dropped in a new motor. Only saw 4,900 rpms. After much research figured out my cam was degreeded in wrong. So I removed the motor and reset the cam ICL to where it should be. I was 5 degrees off which makes a huge difference lost all bottom end power and moved the power curve up so high I couldnt get over the hump. Not to mention the water reversion problemn.

cdail28590 05-04-2011 11:24 AM

The motor is a 468 with a custom Bob Madera cam in it. It made 451 hp and 511 ft/lbs torque at 5200. My GPS speed at 4400 was 61 mph.

A.O. Razor 05-04-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by cdail28590 (Post 3394393)
The motor is a 468 with a custom Bob Madera cam in it. It made 451 hp and 511 ft/lbs torque at 5200. My GPS speed at 4400 was 61 mph.

Hmm. Something is surely not right. If your drive is a 1.5, then your slip is good. 12%, and you should see low 70's @ 5200, and that seems about right for the setup. If your drive is indeed a 1.36, your slip is 21%, and that is somewhat high. You mention that the prop has had work done, so a non labbed Mirage+ could maybe be a good baseline prop. Before ripping the motor apart, I would try a 23" and 25" M+ and see what happens. In best case, you might just be over prop'd, and a 23" on a 1.36 should be close. Alternatively a 22" and 24" B1 prop could also be good starters. What is you x-dim?

Ps. Ignore the 72-75 @ 5000 rpms in my earlier post. More like 70+. Typing when tired I guess.

cdail28590 05-05-2011 08:31 AM

I will try my buddies 23 mirage +, hopefully this weekend. The x dimension is set at factory levels. I didn't change it when I redid the transom. I was hoping to get 75 out of this combo. I guess theres no way to determine the drive ratio without tearing the drive apart?

GTOFFSHORE 05-05-2011 09:05 AM

If all the stickers are gone and no serial you can pull top cover and count the number of teeth on the gear.
Go on mercruiserparts . Com and enter the seriAl numbe you have of transom and see what pops up. If it's all stock should lead you in right direction. I had a python and to have a 1.36 it would be an earlier one.


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