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Mr Gadgets 08-21-2012 05:53 AM

Where did the shaft snap? Top, middle, bottom? RH rotation? What do the teeth on the upper gears look like, are they snapped off? Any damage to the upper clutch shaft or the bearings in the towers?? It is all speculation, until the full picture is put together.

Dick

ThisIsLivin 08-21-2012 09:26 AM

+2 All American Drive Service or Mr. Gadgets. Having the right mechanic makes all the difference. Drive shower is a must, and definitely run Amsoil Severe Gear, I recommend the 75w/110.

4bus 08-21-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3758558)
I have a 272 Baja with over 1000 hp, has over 300+ hours on a set of xr gears with 750/950 and then 1050 hp that still look like new in the upper. Had them cryoed and iso rem'd early on and I am in it the drive 1-2 times a year changing bearings, inspecting it and changing lower gears (they fall apart every 30-50 hours -BUT I usually change them before anything else gets hurt) so the upper gears can last. I also have all the Max worx stuff though too like the steel tower and billet cap etc, Smitty
I would say somebody cut corners or didin't know what they were doing when they were in the drive last time, whatkinda prop center line and are you running a 5 blade, I hear of alot more destruction with 5 blades.

You would be my hero if you wrote a thread on here with pictures of what you do to maintain your drives :)

I agree on the 5 blade, especially if it is a solid hub vs. the slip hub that comes with a bravo prop.

Don't know how much that 29 ft boat comes in at for LBS, but that does seem like a lot of boat for one bravo tied to a blue engine, with a 5 blader.

GAZ 08-21-2012 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 3758556)
Sorry to hear about your drive problems. Lots of us have been in your shoes.

You could try having a shop "put it together better" like Mr. gadgets, or Max Machine worx, or Bravo shop, or all american drive service, etc. But theres no magic ferry dust.

You could run Amsoil severe gear oil, Bravo shop oil, Royal purple, redline, etc and hope it helps.

You could waste money on upgrade parts but I would save my money for a spare drive, and/or rebuilds.

Could upgrade to a IMCO SCX, BMAX, Konrad, Arneson, XPower, etc,

Do you have any dreams of upgrading boats?

Good luck

Considering both those options of buying a new X/R and having a reputable shop rebuild my old drive as a spare....So when, not if it happens again I,m not without a boat for 2 weeks. Or Upgrading to IMCO,SCX,BMAX. Are they an upgrade? From what I understand they have alot of the same parts. Trying to learn what people with a whole lot more power than my boat has run successfully.

GAZ 08-21-2012 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3758558)
I have a 272 Baja with over 1000 hp, has over 300+ hours on a set of xr gears with 750/950 and then 1050 hp that still look like new in the upper. Had them cryoed and iso rem'd early on and I am in it the drive 1-2 times a year changing bearings, inspecting it and changing lower gears (they fall apart every 30-50 hours -BUT I usually change them before anything else gets hurt) so the upper gears can last. I also have all the Max worx stuff though too like the steel tower and billet cap etc, Smitty
I would say somebody cut corners or didin't know what they were doing when they were in the drive last time, whatkinda prop center line and are you running a 5 blade, I hear of alot more destruction with 5 blades.

I can understand having to do a lot of maintenance with that kind of HP. I think you are right about the rebuild (that somebody cut corners). Not sure about the prop centerline question. All the props I run, I have 4 depending on altitude are 4 blade bravo 1 or a Rev 4.

GAZ 08-21-2012 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets (Post 3758612)
Where did the shaft snap? Top, middle, bottom? RH rotation? What do the teeth on the upper gears look like, are they snapped off? Any damage to the upper clutch shaft or the bearings in the towers?? It is all speculation, until the full picture is put together.

Dick

The shaft snapped 3/4 of the way down the upper splined section. Yes, RH. Can't answer the other questions cuz I have not had the time to tear apart either the upper or lower. Trying to figure out what to do/buy. Who to have rebuild or not.

ezstriper 08-23-2012 06:46 AM

sounds like the gears ran dry of lube...pull off res. inside make sure not all sludged up and not getting enough fluid to drive...

FIXX 08-24-2012 09:13 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by GAZ (Post 3759412)
The shaft snapped 3/4 of the way down the upper splined section. Yes, RH. Can't answer the other questions cuz I have not had the time to tear apart either the upper or lower. Trying to figure out what to do/buy. Who to have rebuild or not.

find a arneson conversion and put it on and dont look back..

GAZ 08-24-2012 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by ezstriper (Post 3760413)
sounds like the gears ran dry of lube...pull off res. inside make sure not all sludged up and not getting enough fluid to drive...

Gear lube bottle got pulled at the start of the season cleaned of the muck that the previous owner let accumulate. Merc Hi perf gear lube changed twice in the last 50 hours. Bottle still clean.

Mr Gadgets 08-25-2012 08:10 AM

The XR vertical shaft does not normally snap, unless something locked up in the lower. Let us know what you find when you get into it.
Dick


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