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state1310 09-21-2013 10:12 PM

bravo re-install
 
i pulled by bravo drive off my tantrum a few months ago to pull the motor . got the motor re-installed last week with the exact same mounts , coupler , spacers etc . we tried to put the drive back on today but its not slipping all the way on . it will start over the bolts but will not go the last 3/4 inch or so .by looking at the grease on the splines it looks like its starting in the coupler . also the prop wont spin once we get it started .... any ideas ? i know someone out there is going to say i have rotten stringers and my mounts arent right , my stringers are fine so dont feel the need to tell me otherwise . i appreciate any help

Unlimited jd 09-21-2013 10:39 PM

Offshore style mounts? Could loosen them and hang the motor while sliding the drive on or drape a rag over the drive to protect it and hit it with a big block of wood. Sometimes it just takes a little force. The "dream" of it sliding right on doesn't always happen.

phragle 09-22-2013 12:05 AM

does the alignment tool go in and out easily??

dba1062 09-22-2013 01:26 AM

Check the alignment with the tool like phragle said. My friend had the same problem this past spring. Looks aligned but it isn't. The gimble bearing might have moved a little and it is preventing the drive from going all the way in. Doesn't take much. Just an idea. Good luck.

kidturbo 09-22-2013 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3999966)
Offshore style mounts? Could loosen them and hang the motor while sliding the drive on

Had my engine out 3 times in 4 years.. lol. Red is likely correct here, your rear alignment is probably off a bit, try lifting it a with a bar or something.. I forget a thin washer they'd used on my rear mounts and drive wouldn't go on. Looking thru the gimbal with a flashlight revealed the alignment problem, checked in the parts box and BINGO, problem solved.

-K

boatnt 09-22-2013 07:10 AM

ok I think your stringers are rotten,,,lol,,

had that happen numerous times,,if its just the last 3/4" that wont go in most likely its the 2 larger o rings on the shaft binding when they hit the gimbal bearing,,
you can verify this by removing the o rings and try installing the out drive I bet it will slide all the way in,,,I just start a nut on each side and slowly tighten evenly and it goes right in..
if it was the alignment you would not be able to push the outdrive that far in..
the prop does not turn because your in gear

Sydwayz 09-22-2013 07:52 AM

Did you replace the gimble bearing too? Are you sure it's seated all the way? This will also cause the same condition.

lskaracing 09-22-2013 08:36 AM

Try using scotch brite pad and polish the drive shaft where the gimble bearing sits .

Tinkerer 09-22-2013 08:42 AM

If the alignment tool slides in and out with TWO fingers the drive will slide right in also. YOU should NEVER have to force it on. If you have to use force something isn't right. Engine couplers are not cheap and the engine has to be removed to replace it.

Katanna 09-22-2013 09:01 AM

Seeing as you removed your engine there is a good chance your coupler is not aligned properly and is stuck. Slide your alignment tool in and bang it on all four sides with a rubber mallet to set it in position. This should allow your bar to slide with just two finger. If is is still tough to move, put alittle film of grease on the end and slide it in and out with out rotateing, this will show where your splines are hitting and which way the engine has to move.
If you dont have an alignment tool, DON'T INSTALL THE DRIVE!

state1310 09-22-2013 09:09 AM

thanks for the input everyone . sounds like the alignment must be off a hair . we assumed by putting all the same parts on exactly the same as they came off it would be aligned . guess i get to order an alignment tool now .

state1310 09-22-2013 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4000012)
ok I think your stringers are rotten,,,lol,,

had that happen numerous times,,if its just the last 3/4" that wont go in most likely its the 2 larger o rings on the shaft binding when they hit the gimbal bearing,,
you can verify this by removing the o rings and try installing the out drive I bet it will slide all the way in,,,I just start a nut on each side and slowly tighten evenly and it goes right in..
if it was the alignment you would not be able to push the outdrive that far in..
the prop does not turn because your in gear

i will try this first . thanks

phragle 09-22-2013 10:01 AM

Personally, I would double check the alignment first. You may be able to eventually get the drive crammed on if the alignment is a little off, but at the expense of soon having to pull the drive and motor to put a new expensive coupler on. (and that's after the coupler goes when your running and leaves you stranded) Whoya on here sells alignment tools cheap

Sunrocket24 09-22-2013 10:36 AM

Here is the tool I got.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIGNMENT-GI...cd1bb4&vxp=mtr

Or you can get this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAVO-ALPHA-...4b4b02&vxp=mtr

state1310 09-22-2013 11:09 AM

thanks guys had no idea you could get one so cheap . that made my day !

phragle 09-22-2013 12:14 PM

Both those ebay links belong to OSO member WHOYA on here that I previously mentioned. Many on here aswell as myself have had nothing but good dealings with him buying his stuff.

state1310 09-22-2013 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4000141)
Both those ebay links belong to OSO member WHOYA on here that I previously mentioned. Many on here aswell as myself have had nothing but good dealings with him buying his stuff.

awesome . cuz my buddy just ordered us one !

blue thunder 09-22-2013 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Katanna (Post 4000068)
Seeing as you removed your engine there is a good chance your coupler is not aligned properly and is stuck. Slide your alignment tool in and bang it on all four sides with a rubber mallet to set it in position. This should allow your bar to slide with just two finger. If is is still tough to move, put alittle film of grease on the end and slide it in and out with out rotateing, this will show where your splines are hitting and which way the engine ato move.
If you dont have an alignment tool, DON'T INSTALL THE DRIVE!

Once you attain the alignment tool you adjust the gimbal bearing alignment as stated above, with a rubber mallet. Then you drive will slide on easily if the engine alignment is correct. If not, your stringers are rotten.... J/K lol

boatnt 09-27-2013 10:52 PM

any updates?


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