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Old 04-20-2015 | 05:58 PM
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Repowering my 1986 SBC/Alpha Formula using a couple of stout 383's. The engines require a 8" 400 damper and was equipped with a balance plate for rear crank. They are 2pc rear seals. I'm having a difficult time locating a suitable flywheel for this setup. Does anyone know a proper mercruiser part number for such a setup eliminating the balance plate? I would be bolting up to bravo coupler and using the 86 bell housing. Thanks in advance for any knowledge.
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Old 04-20-2015 | 07:14 PM
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I don't have a hard and fast answer for you but...sounds like you have a pair of externally balanced 383s set up with 400 cu in style cranks. You might have luck with a "Big Block" fly wheel. I believe 396/427/454 engines are externally balanced and might solve your problem.Keep in mind that you don't necessarily need a "Mercruiser" flywheel to get this done. Check with Michigan Motorz and others for what you need.

Good luck and keep us posted on what you use.
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Old 04-20-2015 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sprink58
I don't have a hard and fast answer for you but...sounds like you have a pair of externally balanced 383s set up with 400 cu in style cranks. You might have luck with a "Big Block" fly wheel. I believe 396/427/454 engines are externally balanced and might solve your problem.Keep in mind that you don't necessarily need a "Mercruiser" flywheel to get this done. Check with Michigan Motorz and others for what you need.

Good luck and keep us posted on what you use.
Thanks and I will give them a call tomorrow. I was told something similar.... I was also told Mercruiser flywheels are essentially GM truck units. The key is finding the right one. I know the guys at Michigan are pretty knowledgeable and can probably get me in the right direction.
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As far as I know balance plates, they are for use with a neutral balance flywheel....so, the motor is correctly balanced.

The plate is mounted between the crank and the flywheel.

Check with your builder...but I believe what I said above is how these are to be used.

Plate kinda looks like this, right ?
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Old 04-20-2015 | 08:04 PM
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BTW: To be able to get rid of the balance plate, you'd have to have your engine balanced by a pro. Therefore, time to take the motor apart to weigh everything.
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Old 04-20-2015 | 08:34 PM
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yes, that's the plate I have. From what I understand, your correct. It's used to enable a neutral balance fflywheel; typically the older 350's......However, I'm also thinking a 400 flywheel would work since it isn't neutral and would negate the need for the plate. More research to do.....
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Old 04-20-2015 | 10:32 PM
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do not use 454 flywheel on small block ext balance engine.you need a 400 truck clutch flywheel. the 454 flywheel is balanced way diff than the 400. i (thought i) bought a 400 flywheel. it was 454. my bow rails vibrated back and forth about 6 inches at idle the engine was so far out of balance. i think the flywheels can be had on jegs. the balance plate from what i hear is pretty close to the stock 400 flywheel.
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Old 04-21-2015 | 06:54 AM
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Thanks for all the info....problem solved. While mercruiser uses several versions of flywheels on the 5.7's, I have one the most common sizes. 222-9520. It is a 168T 14" gm unit, 14091599.

As we know, 383's can be internal or external balanced. Since my engines are external, the plate can be removed providing a correctly weighted flywheel is used. The plate is only used to allow a neutral wheel. After lots of research, GM 3986394 is the proper unit to eliminate the plate....
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Old 04-21-2015 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Formula_272_SR1
Thanks for all the info....problem solved. While mercruiser uses several versions of flywheels on the 5.7's, I have one the most common sizes. 222-9520. It is a 168T 14" gm unit, 14091599.

As we know, 383's can be internal or external balanced. Since my engines are external, the plate can be removed providing a correctly weighted flywheel is used. The plate is only used to allow a neutral wheel. After lots of research, GM 3986394 is the proper unit to eliminate the plate....
Ayuh,.... If that's GM's flywheel for a 400 SBC, standard clutched transmission, you've got the Right one,...

Our couplers bolt onto the pressure plate bolt holes,....

Btw,.... I doubt that Bravo coupler will fit under yer flywheel cover,..... Use the right Alpha coupler,.....

The coupler ain't the weak link, it's the Alpha gears, 'n shafts,....
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