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endeavour32 03-06-2016 07:27 PM

I've got a set of -2 sportmasters, so yes I am raising my prop shafts. It seems that you have some experience with this set up. I really didn't add the ITS for any speed gain but more for the clean set up and hopefully better leverage/handling with the 7" set back. Most people just seem to leave 292's and 311's stock. I can't find anyone that has done much to these boats other than add more hp. In the past I was spinning 25 merc labbed bravos, and for testing I also picked up a set of fully labbed 27 (true) pitch Bravos. I'm expecting to have the slip go up a little but again, i've got nothing to base any of this off of. What is your thoughts on this?

777offshore 03-07-2016 08:25 AM

I spent many years racing and being the setup person for Velocity Powerboats in Factory Class and Production Class. So Yes, I do have a good bit of knowledge, but it is all by the grace of God that this is comes natural to me! Did you run the -2 drives on your current setup? If so, with the ITS's your slip numbers will actually come down most likely. If you ran standard Bravos before and are changing to -2s with the ITS, your slip will be close to the same. Maybe a little higher or a little lower, all depends on how your boat likes the more efficient sportmaster cases. Most likely you will have a small speed gain, but handling should be more stable and much safer than standard steering. With the hydraulic steering creating a steadier drive going thru the water, the stand off will give you more leverage to carry the boat and possibly improve speed. What power are you running?

endeavour32 03-07-2016 08:33 AM

I've never run the Sport Masters on my boat. Up till now, other than the engines, everything is stock. Unfortunately everything is being changed all at one time. I would have loved to changed one thing at a time to measure the differences but I have to travel 5 hours to work on my boat. So that said, when I'm there I crack out as much as I can. As for power I'm running HP 450's. Prior my shafts were 7" below the running surface, now they will be 5" below.

class6 03-08-2016 07:42 PM

you are going in the right direction, But 5" is still real deep. Did you consider Imco 12" x 3" up boxes. I think that you work real well on that Hull. Your doing a cool set-up now and I will be watching to see what happens. Good Luck

endeavour32 03-08-2016 09:34 PM

I did think of Imco's for a bit but I didn't want to raise the engines 3". If I do that I'm going to have to get rid of the swim platform because I don't think there is any way I can raise the exhaust that much and make it work, and I really don't want to invest in custom tails for Gil manifolds. I really like the way the ITS is a a self contained set up, we'll see how all this works. If the gains are minimal, then I may move everything up a few inches in the future. I've got a lot of projects this spring, and I have to travel a ways to work on my boat, so time is really limited. I'm really hoping to pick up 4-5 mph with this new set up. At the very least the handling will improve. In the past it was a handful at WOT.

outonsafari 03-09-2016 10:53 AM

http://www.cpperformance.com/c-396-tailpipe-wedges.aspx

these might help

endeavour32 03-09-2016 09:51 PM

As I'm set up now I'm good. I am already running wedges, which are great for small adjustments. A 3" raise though will require filling and re-cutting the transom or custom pipes. Which is why I'm going with standard boxes.

endeavour32 03-30-2016 09:53 PM

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Time for an update on this project-

I've got the engines pulled, stock gimbles off and the new ITS boxes installed. Anyone thinking about this, I can't say enough how simple this swap was. The only thing I have to do in regards to the transom assemblies is rig the steering. Other than that, everything is in and hooked up.

Here are a few pictures of the progress.

BajaDan 03-31-2016 07:52 AM

I have been contemplating this for some time as it just seems the best, cleanest way to install external hydraulic steering. I am in the same situation as I would like to use my existing B1 drive. I am also very deep and was considering a -2 lower so you are doing exactly what I had in mind. Even though our boats are very different, the setup seems similar so I am interested in what your doing and how it turns out. Please keep us posted.

Dan

endeavour32 03-31-2016 10:43 PM

Dan-

I certainly will, too many of these posts end, and you never find out what the results were. I will be posting the results this project.


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