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Old 03-05-2016 | 07:26 AM
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I bought some near new ITS boxes for my Formula and after the fact realize that merc doesn't make a long input shaft for the B1, only the X series drives. I have a practically new set of B1 Swept back uppers that I planned on using but at this point I don't see how that is going to happen. Does anyone have any suggestions other than selling the B1 uppers and replacing them with X uppers.
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Old 03-05-2016 | 07:58 AM
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I would think there would be a way to change the flange or the u joint to be able to run the long shaft on your upper.
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Old 03-05-2016 | 08:06 AM
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The XR input shafts use a larger u-joint and I believe the gear end shaft diameter is bigger. The only thing I can think of, is to turn down the short end of the XR input shaft so the B1 gears would fit on the x shaft. You can do this with XR propshafts (so you can run standard Bravo gears) but I don't know if you can do this with the gear end input shaft.

It seems to be a rather complicated project. In addition to the above, you also can't just install an X input shaft because the retainer ring, as I understand it, is larger than a B1 retainer ring. You also can install the B1 ring on an X shaft because the yoke is too large and the spanner wrench won't fit over it. My head is hurting with all of these small yet road blocking differences.

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Old 03-05-2016 | 08:49 AM
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The 336 formula for sale at shogren has bravos on imco extension boxes. How do they run those?
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Old 03-05-2016 | 08:58 AM
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Imco makes their own shaft, but its longer. The ITS boxes are only 7" whereas the Imco boxes are 12". The shafts are not interchangeable.
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Old 03-05-2016 | 09:06 AM
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So maybe shortening an imco shaft would be the easiest way to custom make a part?
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Old 03-05-2016 | 09:09 AM
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Thats a pretty expensive option. IMCO wants over $700 for just 1 shaft, then the machine work to make it fit.
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Old 03-05-2016 | 09:14 AM
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It's a boat...nothing is cheap lol. Prolly cheaper than the xr upper upgrade but you would also get strength of the xr too that way.
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Old 03-05-2016 | 09:44 AM
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There are joints out there that are 2x2. (2 different sizes per plane)
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Old 03-05-2016 | 10:14 AM
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You can do it by using an X gear set and the ITS u joint shaft.
Imco makes a retainer that will let you do that on the standard upper housing.
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