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Batmeat 07-10-2022 05:53 AM

When to upgrade the Bravo 1? 570hp/640ftlbs
 
My bravo 1 is the original from 1990. Never had issues running it with a 7.4l. Short story is I’ve bought new motor pushing 570hp and 640ft pounds of torque. I boat at 6800 ft, the motor was Dyno’d at sea level. There will be a power loss. What’s going to be the way to go on the Bravo 1, 1.5 ratio? Rebuild and beef it up or put in XR internals?

boat is a 23’ cuddy cabin ( for the kids). It’s around 4klbs in weight.

quick calculation is a loss of 100hp 115ft/lbs so 470hp 525ft/lbs

Griff 07-10-2022 10:29 PM

I would keep running the drive as is. The older Bravos held up much better than the newer ones and the older gears were better. If it fails, I would go to Bravo X upper. Avoid going to an XR unless absolutely needed. The XR gears usually only last around 200 hrs

DrFeelgood 07-11-2022 03:43 AM

Agreed. relatively lightweight boat, as long as you're not beating on it mercilessly, it should live a decent life behind that HP level.

Brad Christy 07-14-2022 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4837902)
I would keep running the drive as is. The older Bravos held up much better than the newer ones and the older gears were better. If it fails, I would go to Bravo X upper. Avoid going to an XR unless absolutely needed. The XR gears usually only last around 200 hrs

Griff,

What's the cutoff between "older" Bravos and "newer" Bravos?

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

Batmeat 07-15-2022 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4837902)
I would keep running the drive as is. The older Bravos held up much better than the newer ones and the older gears were better. If it fails, I would go to Bravo X upper. Avoid going to an XR unless absolutely needed. The XR gears usually only last around 200 hrs

thx griff!

Griff 07-18-2022 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4838367)
Griff,

What's the cutoff between "older" Bravos and "newer" Bravos?

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

Regular Bravos used to come standard on power up to 600SCs. In the early 2000’s the failure rate seemed to increase behind the 496HO’s so Merc came out with the XZ and XR and the X

30ftpanther 07-19-2022 05:14 PM

What is they difference between bravo 1 and bravo 1X ???

cheech 07-20-2022 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 4838954)
What is they difference between bravo 1 and bravo 1X ???

Found this.
I remember seeing it on this site awhile ago.
Came across it on another site.
Originally on Bam's site. Couldn't find it there.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ad372288ad.png

30ftpanther 07-20-2022 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4839025)
Found this.
I remember seeing it on this site awhile ago.
Came across it on another site.
Originally on Bam's site. Couldn't find it there.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ad372288ad.png

Thanks for the information!

Brad Christy 07-21-2022 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4838725)
Regular Bravos used to come standard on power up to 600SCs. In the early 2000’s the failure rate seemed to increase behind the 496HO’s so Merc came out with the XZ and XR and the X

Griff,

So, I'm a bit confused....

It sounds like you're saying the durability of the B1 diminished in the early 2000's, and Merc's solution was to develop several stages of stronger outdrives. But the chart shows a different story. I *THINK*. The drive on our PQ is a B1, MFRd in 2001. I'm just trying to figure out what we've got.

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991


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