good depth finder
looking for a good depth finder - my current lowrance cant handle more than about 10mph - would like one that works better at speed. thanks
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Never seen any depth finder work over 10mph
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My Airmar in hull will work at 50mph most times.
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some is wrong then with your Lowrance or the transducer or the install . At one time thats all my dealerships would install because they were so reliable.
Which unit do you have and how old ? Have you hit your transducer and how is that installed ? they can not read air -- Is the transducer transom mounted or shoot thru the hull -- The can NOT read thru a cored hull FYI - has to be solid glass with no air bubbles between the laminates if the transducer is shooting thru the hull. Just saying |
Transducers can't read through air. They need clean water under with no bubbles. If you want to read at speed it has to be placed so that is maintains clean water under. A stepped hul introduces water under the hull making it harder to find clean water.
Like mentioned it can read through fiberglass but not any material with air pockets. If mounting to read through the hull it is expoxied to the hull. No air bubbles in epoxy. You can test it's location by temporarily attaching to hull and flooding area with water so it fill voids between hull and transducer. Then run at speed to test. |
Originally Posted by justfishing
(Post 4670419)
Transducers can't read through air. They need clean water under with no bubbles. If you want to read at speed it has to be placed so that is maintains clean water under. A stepped hul introduces water under the hull making it harder to find clean water.
Like mentioned it can read through fiberglass but not any material with air pockets. If mounting to read through the hull it is expoxied to the hull. No air bubbles in epoxy. You can test it's location by temporarily attaching to hull and flooding area with water so it fill voids between hull and transducer. Then run at speed to test. |
Lots of good info thanks! |
Originally Posted by underpsi68
(Post 4670424)
mine is mounted in antifreeze.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/530269 |
baby oil is the recommendation for the transducers to be submerged - including the airmans.
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Originally Posted by justfishing
(Post 4670419)
Transducers can't read through air. They need clean water under with no bubbles. If you want to read at speed it has to be placed so that is maintains clean water under. A stepped hul introduces water under the hull making it harder to find clean water.
Like mentioned it can read through fiberglass but not any material with air pockets. If mounting to read through the hull it is expoxied to the hull. No air bubbles in epoxy. You can test it's location by temporarily attaching to hull and flooding area with water so it fill voids between hull and transducer. Then run at speed to test. I posted they can not read thru air nor core material sandwiched between glass. I do not know if you read that or not or ? just saying |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4670451)
I posted they can not read thru air nor core material sandwiched between glass. I do not know if you read that or not or ? just saying
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
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Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
(Post 4670540)
I have the same, and I can get depth readings at 60 in flat water. Once I get in the air it takes a long time to reset, sometimes I have to turn off my GPS to get the depth readings back.
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Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
(Post 4670540)
I have the same, and I can get depth readings at 60 in flat water. Once I get in the air it takes a long time to reset, sometimes I have to turn off my GPS to get the depth readings back.
With the Garmin unit GT15M-IH and an Echomap plus - do you still also keep the original transducer or the thru hull unit replaces it and is the only one? thanks! |
Originally Posted by JST1970
(Post 4672059)
With the Garmin unit GT15M-IH and an Echomap plus - do you still also keep the original transducer or the thru hull unit replaces it and is the only one? thanks!
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What the thoughts on low profile through-hull units like the airmar B60 in a non-stepped hull?
Guess main question is, how much does the added drag actually cost ya.. |
Anybody have a good HDR 600 Humminbird laying around in white...
Need a good gauge. |
Originally Posted by kidturbo
(Post 4675349)
What the thoughts on low profile through-hull units like the airmar B60 in a non-stepped hull?
Guess main question is, how much does the added drag actually cost ya.. |
I ended up going with that Airmar P series, but haven't got boat in the water yet to see how good it works. And yes drilling thru the balsa core "only" to expose the outer skin can be a challenge. Then you have to back fill around the angle mounting cup with resin, also kinda tricky on a 24deg bottom. But it's mounted in there now..
After the fact, I'd go a transom mount next time and save the aggravation... https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fc59157e08.jpg |
I have been very pleased with the airmar transducer. Mine has the glue down housing that you fill with glycol. I get readings at over 70 mph connected to a Faria digital guage. |
+1 on the airmar glue down with glycol reservoir . Have mine hooked to a garmin downscan sonar. Reeds at speed to 600 ft and 900-1000 at idle.\
Chris |
Glad to hear they work good at speed. That was our biggest factor for going that route.
This one is going on a Raymarine MFD. And while the Aimar might not provide all the detail of Realvison or 3D scan units, the techs all said if installed correctly they will read above 70mph, depending on depth, until you outrun the echo.. |
ugghh. The speed I was talking about is 30 knots. 53 Ft Express Cruiser. Twin Volvo D12 675's. I have never looked at the sonar scan at that speed just know I still get depth at that speed till 600ft. So I would think 70 at 100ft would be no problem.
Chris |
running a airmar p79S (oem install) and it works for crap, its running into the 525efi harness and running up to the mercury vessel race race view, it is intermittent at best, not moving,idle, from 20-80 no rhyme or reason maybe works maybe doesn't. have plans to upgrade to a simrad plotter in the near future and really hoping that it will work better, if not ill maybe buy the same sending unit that plug directly into the simrad and not go through the smartcraft... also though about a through hull, but man drilling holes into the bottom of a boat :angry-smiley-044:
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My Airmar is bullet proof running to a my Dual Garmins. The Garmins are also hooked to a NMEA 2000 network as are my Simrads. The Simrads read the depth off the network. So Im guessing its either your Smartcraft or very possibly your Airmar Cup is dry. Turn it a 1/4 turn , pull it off and have a look.
Chris |
Originally Posted by Blueabyss
(Post 4712348)
My Airmar is bullet proof running to a my Dual Garmins. The Garmins are also hooked to a NMEA 2000 network as are my Simrads. The Simrads read the depth off the network. So Im guessing its either your Smartcraft or very possibly your Airmar Cup is dry. Turn it a 1/4 turn , pull it off and have a look.
Chris |
It runs into the Garmin.
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If you pause the vid you will see the depth being picked up on the Port garmin and the simrad. This is on a Cruisers 500 express. 35000 lbs thick hull.
https://mightytext.net/zVrZEs Chris |
Gents, switched to Humminbird recently and wanted to know - is the extended warranty worth the money? What do you think?
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