Arneson Drive on a 28 Daytona
 

Anybody running a Arneson surface drive on a 28, either new from factory or conversion from Bravo?

Ive never seen an Elim Cat with surface drives......

anyone have one?... or any pics???

There's a 30' Eliminator with Arnesons, the 28 would work easily as well as the 27' as the sponson notch is no small it does not interfere with the installation of the Arnesons.

I looked into this previously as well. Was tired of the concern about blowing bravos. I actually was contacted by the Arneson guys and they were quite confident about the application. I would reach out to them and gain their perspective as well as who they might recommend doing the work.

While Rik is a super nice guy and responds to inquiries about these drives, I could never get a solid answer to my questions about who could handle this install and how much it would cost. Like all things in the marine industry, these drives are cloaked in secrecy about cost and possible difficulty of install. I know the overall goal is to protect the dealer/distributor chain, but someone should be able to give a customer an idea of how to move forward with the install of these drives. I was not looking to cut out anyone or get a low price, I just wanted two Arneson's installed correctly and wanted to know they would work without a summer of tweaking. Part of the reason I eventually bought a new boat with NXT drives is because I could not figure out the Arneson install and feel comfortable they would be a good fit for my old 28 Daytona. My original plan was to repower my 28 and change the drives, but in the end I like the path I took of simply replacing the boat in lieu of dropping $100k in drives and engines. I am sure the Arneson's are great drives, but when someone reaches out to them and wants to buy, they should have a dealer network that can take over and quote a price and give one some assurance that they would not be forging a new path and the end results would be positive. Just my two cents.

just a BLANK CHECK BIG Daddy

Surface drives
 

I would have spent whatever it took to install these drives, within reason, if I could have found someone who knew about them, had done them before or could be certain they could set them up in a reasonable of time, but when asked, Arneson could not provide the name of anyone on the east coast they felt could do this. Not slamming anyone, but I see a lot of people inquire about and show interest in these drives, but I wonder how many actually get them installed. It seems to me there is interest enough to set up a network of dealers who could, give a price, install and provide service after the fact.

Same thing we ran into with the 33 Daytona w bravos & got worse with the Scs , was either surface or switch boats & never been happier ..:drink:

Installation is fairly simple and straight forward. All the components are included in the kit, simply remove all the Bravo (or any out-drive if there is one) and follow the mounting instructions for the Arnesons. There are only 10 holes to drill for the standoff box and from that point onward it is plug and play. Any marine place can do this and in Buford there is Canale Marine that can do the install and service.

Nothing secretive and you can always purchase direct if you wish and self install if you wanted.

Why does someone choose surface drives if you cannot steer the boat at low speeds or around docks w/ them?

I must be missing something? what good are they?
except a lil faster??

anyone?....:drink:

So exactly what is your experience with surface drives:lolhit:

Once again your wrong and dont have a clue what your talking about. Rik dont even bother responding to that post.

28 with surface Arneson
 

The question you deleted is one I had also. Has anyone put the drives on a 28 Daytona, using the replacement Bravo package Rik has and how was the dial in period? What were the results? The stuff that concerned me were the reports of the boats not handling well and in some cases spinning out or causing a 180 degree turn at high speed. No one could endorse it or relate experiences they had. I hear the correct prop is hard to determine. I have followed this drive since I was first read about Howard Arneson years ago and I know it is one of the best, if not the best surfacing drives on the market. I just did not want to have any chance of a long dial in time. Went through that when I was young and now I just like to ride in the summer and work on them in the winter.

Likewise, where are all these boats with Arnesons that spin out? So much negative information with so little data to back the misinformation.

Propellers are fairly simple. Unlike in the past, we currently can/do use the same propellers that fit a standard Mercury drive. So anyone from Hering, Mercury or ?? can make you a propeller for an Arneson application and you can swap them with anyone running a Merc speedmaster drive.

Just like with the Merc drives, you need the correct diameter and pitch for the application and speed of the boat. It is fairly simple.

Whoever PR388 is... well he obviously speaks from his experience

This kid is getting to be REALLY annoying! :cuqui:

Pr388
 

Rik,
He is simply a young boy who eats, breaths and dreams about boats. Do not take his comments about the drives as an insult. He does not mean to harm, I believe. This site is his after school play land. The posts about the boats spinning came from here, as this is my only source of info about such things. I went back and read many threads that you have posted in, as you are a very good ambassador for Arneson and post on almost every thread about them. I do not know any more details than written here, but certainly wanted to know.

Listen, dont be rude please, im just asking a question....Im learning alot on OSO, and from what i've been told, surface drives can be very tricky to turn/dock at lower speeds, thats all.....I must have bad info and am wrong,, but unlike you, I dont know everything....

There's a search function.......use it.

Probably because you

A. Do not introduce yourself, name, location or what boat you have or have been in predominately. i.e. experience or lack thereof.

B. You did not state you were ignorant, instead you posted a slanderous statement without foundation nor truth as fact for others to read, thus liable. I suggest you consult council before you continue to post in this manner.

C. When you do the above, you attack with insults rather than

1. Apologize for your liable inaccurate statements

2. You do not edit nor remove your false statements thus leading to others that are just as ignorant to see and believe you are presenting yourself as a knowledgeable source of information.

In case you are correct in that you are learning, then you are by the very definition ignorant (ignorant by definition, save you the time to look it up, means lack of knowledge) and rather than insulting people, companies, and or products, you should post the source of your assumptions, ask people that have actual relevant experience not 3rd-4th persons removed or further removed parties and post their ignorance as fact.

Then, you might have a much warmer reception from other members.

Rik
 

Remember, he is a kid and a lot of the people here know that. The danger is that someone new will not know and take his posts as true or from personal experience. Here is what he sent me on a DCB forum he was in:

i and thanku... i dont own my own boat... my parents live in LHC and own an Elim Cat..im in so. cali,,.. I am not in the income bracket to get myself in debt with a boat right now..mayb someday... My im a huge powerboat/catamaran lover and study up on alot on whats out there new/used online and in articles.... so i enjoy sharing my questions/thoughts/views about diff makes/models out there..... I get alot of neg replys, but its funny,,, its just OSO talk....

Did u buy the 36 w/ 700s, nxts? I recently saw it forsale?
how bout a pic?

I don't think you want sue him, just scold him.