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LubeJobs42 04-07-2011 11:40 AM

25 Eliminator - West coast advice needed
 
For a 25 Eliminator, what would be the ideal motor for it? (this is a sincere question) Would a 500 EFI be ok or would it be a dog with a single 500?
I see quite a few with 700HP and 800HP motors but of course then there is the dependability factor.
For a west coast boater (obviously different conditions then east coast) what would be the ideal set up?

The other question; do most people run a standard bravo XR or a shorty?

Uncle Dave 04-07-2011 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 3370920)
For a 25 Eliminator, what would be the ideal motor for it? (this is a sincere question) Would a 500 EFI be ok or would it be a dog with a single 500?
I see quite a few with 700HP and 800HP motors but of course then there is the dependability factor.
For a west coast boater (obviously different conditions then east coast) what would be the ideal set up?

The other question; do most people run a standard bravo XR or a shorty?

Which eliminator model?

Uncle Dave

CLA 04-07-2011 02:17 PM

If you are talking daytona, I would want atleast a 525. My daytona is set up with a 625 ilmor/xr/imco -2 shorty. Boat runs mid 90's. A well setup 525 merc boat will run 85-88mph.

A 500 efi with a whipple would be fun also.

LubeJobs42 04-07-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3370970)
Which eliminator model?

Uncle Dave

DUH! Sorry!
Cat, Daytona Tall deck, 1/4 canopy, closed front

Airpacker 04-07-2011 03:04 PM

Gino, a 25 daytona with a 500efi will run right around 81 to 83 mph with a 1.5 bravo spinning a 28.

A 525 will run 83 to 85 ish with a 1.36 spinning a 28 or a 1.5 spinning a 30.

600hp will net you around 88 to 90.

A 500efi / whipple kit will run lo to mid 90's

A 900 :) will get you over 110.

Drive length depends on where they cut the hole. Eliminator seems to range up and down about an inch but most are delivered with a standard length drive and the transom assembly touching the rub rail.

I run a -1 SC lower on a SCX drive on mine for all around drivability. Yes, it would probably pick up 5mph with a -2 but
-2's tend to be a little tough to plane but work well once up and over.

LubeJobs42 04-07-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3371076)
Gino, a 25 daytona with a 500efi will run right around 81 to 83 mph with a 1.5 bravo spinning a 28.

A 525 will run 83 to 85 ish with a 1.36 spinning a 28 or a 1.5 spinning a 30.

600hp will net you around 88 to 90.

A 500efi / whipple kit will run lo to mid 90's

A 900 :) will get you over 110.

Drive length depends on where they cut the hole. Eliminator seems to range up and down about an inch but most are delivered with a standard length drive and the transom assembly touching the rub rail.

I run a -1 SC lower on a SCX drive on mine for all around drivability. Yes, it would probably pick up 5mph with a -2 but
-2's tend to be a little tough to plane but work well once up and over.

Thank you!! That is what i was looking for!!!!

It dosen't matter, if i put a 500, 525, or 700 , in a few months I'll be putting a 1,550 sterling in it! :drink:

johnlomant 04-07-2011 03:34 PM

Nordic Thor runs better and looks better also.

CLA 04-07-2011 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3371076)
Gino, a 25 daytona with a 500efi will run right around 81 to 83 mph with a 1.5 bravo spinning a 28.

A 525 will run 83 to 85 ish with a 1.36 spinning a 28 or a 1.5 spinning a 30.

600hp will net you around 88 to 90.

A 500efi / whipple kit will run lo to mid 90's

A 900 :) will get you over 110.

Drive length depends on where they cut the hole. Eliminator seems to range up and down about an inch but most are delivered with a standard length drive and the transom assembly touching the rub rail.

I run a -1 SC lower on a SCX drive on mine for all around drivability. Yes, it would probably pick up 5mph with a -2 but
-2's tend to be a little tough to plane but work well once up and over.

What elevation is your lake at? Old style bottom?

I have a local to me 25' with a factory installed teague 900 and its a solid 120+ boat. My boat with 600 hp runs over 90 even with 5 people.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...999/speedo.jpg

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...ept2010039.jpg

ElimiNordic 04-07-2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 3371091)
Thank you!! That is what i was looking for!!!!

It dosen't matter, if i put a 500, 525, or 700 , in a few months I'll be putting a 1,550 sterling in it! :drink:

what drive would you use?

CLA 04-07-2011 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3371097)
what drive would you use?

A SCX might work.......

ElimiNordic 04-07-2011 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by CLA (Post 3371100)
A SCX might work.......

I don't believe it would. Only an Arneson would hold the power, as a #6 or M8 wouldn't work on this boat.

CLA 04-07-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3371122)
I don't believe it would. Only an Arneson would hold the power, as a #6 or M8 wouldn't work on this boat.

Yea it would def be on borrowed time. There are a few 26 daytonas with #6's though.

Airpacker 04-07-2011 04:39 PM

There are a few number 6 25 daytonas out there. A 1550 would certainly be DEATH and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the test pilot.

1300 ran 144 and change and Bob Teague said he wouldn't want to do it again :)


PS, CLA, I said "over 110" :)

LubeJobs42 04-07-2011 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3371139)
There are a few number 6 25 daytonas out there. A 1550 would certainly be DEATH and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the test pilot.

1300 ran 144 and change and Bob Teague said he wouldn't want to do it again :)


PS, CLA, I said "over 110" :)

Me either!

Thank you for all the info!!

Uncle Dave 04-07-2011 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3371122)
I don't believe it would. Only an Arneson would hold the power, as a #6 or M8 wouldn't work on this boat.

SCX seems good to up to around a grand as Chris and Kap would attest.

The Arneson is definitely cool and would handle that power.

Ive seen a few cats that size with v drives that will handle anything.

Uncle Dave

PokerRun388 04-07-2011 10:11 PM

We have a 25 that runs a TCM800 carb, and Bravo xr reworked and geared by savage marine w/ full imco steering and have never had a problem... boat runs 95 to 100 based on conditions and prop....

The 25 does seem a little lite at speeds over 80, and we are interested in a 27 to 30, for a more stable ride in rougher conditions......

Airpacker 04-08-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3371402)
The 25 does seem a little lite at speeds over 80.

Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? The hull just starts working nicely at 80mph. It runs dead nuts stable at 100. At least, thats what over 400 hrs of seat time driving mine in all kinds of different conditions tells me.

bulletbob 04-08-2011 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3371538)
Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? The hull just starts working nicely at 80mph. It runs dead nuts stable at 100. At least, thats what over 400 hrs of seat time driving mine in all kinds of different conditions tells me.

Yep. my 25' Talon dosen't really start to fly until 80. 80 to 100 is where the fun starts. 115 mph is as fast as "I" personally care to go in this hull. You got some big ones to run 120+!

ElimiNordic 04-08-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3371402)
We have a 25 that runs a TCM800 carb, and Bravo xr reworked and geared by savage marine w/ full imco steering and have never had a problem... boat runs 95 to 100 based on conditions and prop....

The 25 does seem a little lite at speeds over 80, and we are interested in a 27 to 30, for a more stable ride in rougher conditions......

I demand pictures today....:evilb::evilb::evilb:

PokerRun388 04-09-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3371538)
Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? The hull just starts working nicely at 80mph. It runs dead nuts stable at 100. At least, thats what over 400 hrs of seat time driving mine in all kinds of different conditions tells me.

The 25s a beautiful boat,,, and mayb you feel comfortable at higher speeds ,, but I don't... its personal opinion... I have 335hrs driving the boat,,, and in my OPINION, I have to be very alert at higher speeds in a 25..... I've been in a 30 at 100+ and you feel like your going 65.... HUGE difference in handling bwtn a 25 and 30.. Im done with this....bye

Airpacker 04-09-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3372479)
The 25s a beautiful boat,,, and mayb you feel comfortable at higher speeds ,, but I don't... its personal opinion... I have 335hrs driving the boat,,, and in my OPINION, I have to be very alert at higher speeds in a 25..... I've been in a 30 at 100+ and you feel like your going 65.... HUGE difference in handling bwtn a 25 and 30.. Im done with this....bye

Ya, ok. Your vast performance boat driving experience speaks volums. Lets see a pic of you driving said 25 foot boat. Idle speed will do because I highly doubt any truth in your claim.

You can provide at least ONE picture can't you?????

Fountain Family 04-09-2011 12:27 PM

I wouldnt mind seeing a few pictures of everyones 25.

OL40SVX 04-09-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3372479)
The 25s a beautiful boat,,, and mayb you feel comfortable at higher speeds ,, but I don't... its personal opinion... I have 335hrs driving the boat,,, and in my OPINION, I have to be very alert at higher speeds in a 25..... I've been in a 30 at 100+ and you feel like your going 65.... HUGE difference in handling bwtn a 25 and 30.. Im done with this....bye

You take the boat in on trade Gino?

PokerRun388 04-11-2011 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3372708)
You take the boat in on trade Gino?

Ummm,, actually I was thinking of a 48 OL cat....

WildThing47 04-12-2011 11:08 PM

I really must admit, I just read this thread:

Airpacker: very good info...you obviously havn't met pokerrun388. He's the most knowledgeable member on the board. He's logged more hours than Johnny T....he knows everything..."why not run a t-53 turbine in the eliminator over a sterling with a nxt combination...i bet it would run great...then you could fly it to the moon!"

Pokerrun: this just goes to show how much of an idiot you are....he just called you out....you feel you have to be more alert at 100? I would love to be in la la land like you, but seriously...YOU HAVE TO BE ALERT IN ANY BOAT OVER 80MPH...(ALL SPEEDS FOR THAT MATTER)......you've just shown everyone how full of it you are...you remind me of that idiot who flipped the 36 skater with 10 or so people on board, people sitting on each others laps no life jackets...at 140mph...another genius...BRAGGING ABOUT IT...just like you, he didn't know what he was doing...thankfully no one was hurt...

48 Outerlimits? You go buy one hot shot...we'd all love to see it...only reason you said that is so you'd look cool and people would think you were actually upgrading to it...you have no intention nor the means to jump into that, and if you think 100 is fast...I think a 48 would be much too much power for you.

I guess in larger boats you don't have to be alert, as just stated by our fearless and brilliant leader...this guy is like a piece of corn stuck in your teeth...

I hear bayliners are rock solid at 22mph, buy one of those and go hang out on e-dock..they'd LOVE you there..


Sorry, I just had to jump in here and say, I got my laugh for the night..

Gino: good luck!

Everyone else: cheers!

psi 04-21-2011 08:22 PM

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Heres a pic of my 25...and its ran 110 and very, very stable...hoping to run in the 120's in a couple weeks...

fitzkie 05-05-2011 04:53 PM

Help with engine for Mid Cuddy?
 
Just found this post and thought you guys might be able to help.

I am looking to buy a 2008 26FT Mid Cuddy Eliminator with no power.

I do not need to go 100+, but want to make sure I put the best power/value motor in the boat.

What do you guys recommend?

Brian

RunninHotRacing163.1 05-05-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3375437)
I really must admit, I just read this thread:

Airpacker: very good info...you obviously havn't met pokerrun388. He's the most knowledgeable member on the board. He's logged more hours than Johnny T....he knows everything..."why not run a t-53 turbine in the eliminator over a sterling with a nxt combination...i bet it would run great...then you could fly it to the moon!"

Pokerrun: this just goes to show how much of an idiot you are....he just called you out....you feel you have to be more alert at 100? I would love to be in la la land like you, but seriously...YOU HAVE TO BE ALERT IN ANY BOAT OVER 80MPH...(ALL SPEEDS FOR THAT MATTER)......you've just shown everyone how full of it you are...you remind me of that idiot who flipped the 36 skater with 10 or so people on board, people sitting on each others laps no life jackets...at 140mph...another genius...BRAGGING ABOUT IT...just like you, he didn't know what he was doing...thankfully no one was hurt...

48 Outerlimits? You go buy one hot shot...we'd all love to see it...only reason you said that is so you'd look cool and people would think you were actually upgrading to it...you have no intention nor the means to jump into that, and if you think 100 is fast...I think a 48 would be much too much power for you.

I guess in larger boats you don't have to be alert, as just stated by our fearless and brilliant leader...this guy is like a piece of corn stuck in your teeth...

I hear bayliners are rock solid at 22mph, buy one of those and go hang out on e-dock..they'd LOVE you there..


Sorry, I just had to jump in here and say, I got my laugh for the night..

Gino: good luck!

Everyone else: cheers!

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