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I have found a buyer for my 242LS as it sits. We've agreed to a fair price, hopefully the deal will go through. The alternative of course is a long block 502. With parts/labor/etc. the tab would be $9K.

I'm watching prices on 272s, 292s and 311s. Looks like there are a number of good deals out there...and there will probably be more with the high fuel prices. Of course what I don't want to do is buy a boat with tired engines/drives and a rusty old trailer. Decisions, decisions. I'd like to stay under $30K if possible. A year ago I wouldn't have thought it was possible...but I think perhaps now we are in a buyer's market.

I don't have a question really...but if folks spot a deal feel free to point it out. But please no Bayliners! :)

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Here's a 1988 272 with twin (recent) 350 MAG MPIs.

I wonder if that combination would break 60mph?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...oat_id=1536297

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Mine might work for you.

But NOT if you want the silent thunder box.....:D

Am also not going to wholesale it....it's too strong of a package.

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Outlaw,

Yeah that's a nice looking boat. The wife would miss the platform. I'd have to rig up a boom to hoist her out of the water or something. :)

Hang in there for the right buyer. After years of buying high and selling low...I'd like to find a steal. Maybe I'll find someone that needs to sell quickly to pay off their loan shark or something.

Someone once told me that the difference between buyers and sellers is about $5K. With boats and big dreams it's problably more...

Chuck

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A local guy contact me last week wanting to sell his 1988? 272. 350's with about 15 hours since rebuilds and Alpha SS drives (whatever they are). Don't know the guy or the boat but have seen it on the trailer and it looks clean. He claims it's in great condition. I think his bottom dollar is about $25-27K. Let me know if you want more info.

Russ C.

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Thanks for the lead...I may follow up with you on it. I need this deal on the 242LS to close. Hopefully early next week.

Must go boating!

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Good luck on your sale and purchase!

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62-63 tops with that set up

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Personally I wouldn't buy a boat with twin Alpha's. They are not counter rotating so both props are spinning in the same direction. This causes the boat to hadle poorly.

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Definintely something to consider...though perhaps the first boat mentioned in the thread has the newer Alpha One Generation II drives that were available with counter rotation? I don't know. Can anyone tell from the picture of the props? Since my boat is drydocked I figured I go down and take a look this weekend. But point taken Dgduck13.

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/3/6/2/1536297_7.jpg

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From that angle it looks like the port drive is counter rotating because it appears that the props are spining outward

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Best I can tell they are counter rotating.

Jon

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Looks counter rotation to me also.

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Chuck, I'm glad you decided to go bigger! I think you will be happier in the long run with the right boat. I chose the 292 because it seemed to be the right size for trailering, launching etc. when I'm by myself. PLUS, at the time, it would fit into the garage! :p

That is a sharp looking boat in the pic. Looks great with the white rubrail update!

Good luck!

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Thanks. Hopefully the deal on the 242LS will go through. I just sold my Porsche so that will free up some cash flow for the next purchase :). The car was nice but I didn't drive it much. It's hard to go drive fast in grid lock DC traffic...plus I was always worried about getting a ticket. As far as I know there's no speed limit on the Chesapeake Bay...only limitation is my budget.

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I have a guy who seems serious in buying my 292. I'm becoming reluctant to sell it because it drives perfect and I've owned it sooo long that I feel like I know it so well, rather than buying another bigger boat I know nothing about. I also fear that it could take several months to find the right boat and that would stink! I remember it took me a year to find my current 292 after I sold my 242! :mad:

As far as the traffic in DC goes, that's one big reason we got outa there! There is nothing like ringing in the New Year in your pool, and then boating on New Year's day! :evilb:

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I agree with Formuladude, counter rotating from the angle in the pic.

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I have twin alphas both rh on my 272 and i have yet to have it handle poorly. The only reason i would change would be if i went to a bravo setup. I looked in to getting a counter rotation alpha and to me it is WAY too much money for no gain. I have asked about three people if i would gain any speed going to a counter set-up and was told 1-2 mph gain if that

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Car Biz, What are you turning now for speeds? I had an 87 272sr1 with Counter rotating props and the best i saw was 63 on speedo, And we all know what that means prob 59-60 gps.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8423995831

Just had to share this auction. That's a really bad shirt.

:)

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54 GPS turning 4100 with 23 mirages, 3 people,full of fuel. I believe with a 21 mirage and a lighter load of fuel i can get to 58-59. My motors are 350 mags BONE STOCK with 595 hrs. :D

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I looked at this boat in person today. Overall a nice boat with new power. The boat was completely repainted, except for the swim platform...which indicated what the boat was like before the paint. The platform was rough and looked like it was put back together with copious amounts of marinetex. Rubrail didn't quite fit right and was breaking loose at the platform. Upholstery was nice inside and out, some of which looked like it was recently replaced. I'm sure the owner has a ton of $$$ in the motors, drives, paint and other restoration work. But I think I'd rather find a well maintained original boat.

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this is a friend of mines,just spend a little more money and get ALOT more boat!! true turn key 75 mph on gps. Motivated 2 boat owner,in water now and ready every weekend,no issues. I am sure he will work out something on delivery,check it out.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10220.html
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...g/116_2640.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...g/116_2639.jpg

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Broker called today, this boat sold last week.

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I've narrowed my search to either a 292 or 311 and it looks I'll need to increase my budget a bit. My wife would prefer an enclosed head rather than a portapot...so I think the idea of a 272 is out.

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good 311 to buy,call my buddy and see if it will work for ya.

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I'm in the low 30K range, maybe up to $35K...after that the numbers don't add up for me. Thanks for the lead though.

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Never know what he may do,he is paying for 2 boats right now,That 311 has more updayes than any other in that price range,actually we took a running video today,74 mph gps!! I just got home.
no other 311 will run that for that kind of money.

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This one went quick for $25K... I'd prefer a 292 if we decide to go with a sportboat over a SS or PC but this seemed like a good deal.

I called the guy today and he seemed disappointed it went so quick...guess he should have asked for a higher price....

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/8/2/84366282.htm

YEAR 1989
MAKE FORMULA
PRICE $24,900.00
LOCATION WILLIAMSBURG, VA

DESCRIPTION
1989 FORMULA 99', 272 SR-1, Twin 454 Bravo 1's, Special Order Palm Beach Colors, new motors and outdrives in Freshwater use only, Includes '03 Nextrail triple axle aluminum trailer, RUNS PERFECT! $24,900....

http://images.traderonline.com/EMedi...0523895602.jpg

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I'm pretty sure a guy I know bought that boat. I saw him Sat on the river and he told me Monday (yesterday) he was going to Williamsburg to look at a 272 that was a little rough. I'll have to keep an eye out for him in the next few weeks......

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Wow, Those rpm's are down, should be turning close to 4400-4600, losing a lot of speed there, Either those 350 mags are tired or you would need to prop down to 21's, your not getting into the tourque curve on those 350 mags.

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I think the stock 350 is not enough for a 23p,I say 21 max,I have tried all of them too since between me and a friend I have tons of props sitting around to play with.

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I'm trying to get a pair of 21's to try and no one around here has any :( I can run a pair of 23 cleavers 5000 with absolutly no bite. My motors are completly fine just too much prop for my hull and power.

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Yup you right do you have any 21's i can try?

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still using mine,I only have one anyway.

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Might try EBAY.

http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/m...Z1QQsofocusZbs

Also, don't forget there is a 21P Mirage and 21P Mirage Plus.

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The cleavers are no good, blow a hole in the water and to much slip, Def get some 21 mirages, Do you have counter rotating drives? That also helps, And yes, Ebay would be a good place to look or ask around here, There may be some people that have some that will let you try.

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Sorry CHUCK i do not mean too hijack your thread about this. FORMULADUDE i do not have counter rotation. as far as ebay i would like to try a pair then buy. I bought my 23's and need something diff.

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CHECK WITH YOUR LOCAL DEALER THEY ALWAYS HAVE DEMO WHEELS YOU CAN USE.

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Yup tried that! checked with 6 prop shops in 30 mile area NONE. 2 places have new ones at 400-450 a piece but no demos to try. :rolleyes: