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Can anyone tell me if this is a formula and if so year and model? I am looking at this and the guys is saying it is a Chris Craft??

It is a Chris Craft,we sold them for years. Can you tell me the size and year, I may have a catalog with spec`s on it.

Although it says Stinger, that's not a Chris Craft. We referred him over here to ask you Formula guys if you know what it is. Most of us on the CC board think the exhaust and windscreen make it a Formula.

what dose the title say, or check the serial # That will tell you real quick. My two cents JOHN

I am sorry you are correct it MAY be a Formula that has been modified big time. Give me the size and VIN # and we WIL find out what it is!
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What is throwing me off is the addition of vents on the rear deck and Formulas air vent caps being cut off it looks like a 93 or 94 382!

The guy selling it says the title says Chris Craft. He gave Redcorvetteman a hull number that comes back to a CC thats 42' with a 15' beam. I'm thinking he has a title to a CC Catalina. Something screwy going on for sure.

WOW you guys are quick!.. I am not sure what the deal is just trying to figure it out. The boat is on ebay with another one. The guy will not split them up either. right now it is at 15,100 for both boats. 39' and the 41'

Here are a few more pic's

Doesn't look like a Formula to me. Lines and interior/dash definately not a Formula. I think it's a Chris Craft with modifications to make it look like a Formula. Windshield does look like one on my 382 from Taylor Made ... but they can be purchased aftermarket or used.

That's definately not a 15' beam. Run, Forest ... run!:eek:

looks like someone put alot of energy into it, but the paperwork discrepencies would scare me. Either it was stolen, rebuilt from salvage and a title was "found" to be used or some other senario that I'd rather not tie my money up in. (there are some attributes that make it look like a Formula though)

Older 382 IMHO. But I wouldn't touch it,too many possible bad scenarios.

Like what?

The seller is telling him it is an 87 415 stinger. There is one in the classifieds now and it has the same lines as my 83 scorpion 39 but with the built in platform which is the way I remember them. The closest brochure I have is the 85 Chris and it is almost identical to my 83. All of us with CC's think it is a Formula. Now we are really confused if everyone with Formula's thinl it is a Chris. I even dug out my old magazines to see what was in the performance reports but they tested the 31 Chris that year not the 39/415.

Title doesn't seem to match. Does the hull # on the boat start with TNRD? Has to be if it's a Formula. Does the title start with CCV,that's ChrisCraft from that era. That being said,if it is cheap enough,and it is something you want,and you are either in a non-title state,or the boat has a current registration from a non-title state, you may be clear.In Alabama,you can by a boat tag for most anything,and the same is true for a few other states. But without more info,it is a little scary to me. However,I do believe it to be an early 382. I still advise to proceed with caution,but you might wind up with a nice project boat at a good price. Get us some more info,we will try to help. Robert

I'm not sure about IN, but you could check if you have a mechanic buddy if he could get a mechanic's lien title. That way, even if the numbers don't match, you may still be able to get a new title and get it registered. Also, you might ask if the seller will send you a pencil rubbing of the hull number directly from the boat.

its looks to be a Formula that was redone to remove some of the telltale Formula icons( dash, etc) probably to make the boat match the bogus title. - 15' beam indeed?! yikes........

My dad talk to one of the guys employee's today and the guy read the HIN right off both boats. Both numbers start with a CC. This is the 41 CCBAL116J687. The guy said the 41 had been stored inside for 5 years. And the exhaust was custom. I do know that history report things can be wrong all depends on who enters the info. Is there any other places to look for HIN on these boats. a hidden place or anything. Is there a way to run the IN reg number off the boat to get more info

Thanks for all the help

Mike

If your numbers match, then you won't have any registration worries. Just know that it still may be a mystery as to what you really have. But it looks like you could make one nice boat out of it all.

Guys,

The engine hatch is not the same as Formula. The hatch supports around the engine compartment is not Formula. The cockpit liner is not Formula, and the dash is not Formula. The throttles are too close to the steering wheel to be Formula. The swim platform looks like Formula, but does not have ridges that Formula does. There are no top caps on the vent area that Formula has. The ridge down the foredeck is different than Formula, and extends aft of the windshield into the dash.

This is something else made to look like a Formula, but it is definately NOT a Formula!

This is getting interesting. We sold CC back in the mid 80's,I will look for old photos. I was convinced it was an old 382,but to argue with our resident expert,RedDog,would be futile:drink: But I do not remember the rear of the CC's we sold to have Silent Thunder. This could be a a Sat nite research project:p

Called in my resident expert,Dano. He says no way a CC,they had flat transoms. And no way a Formula,even tho hull and transom look similar,no way is it a Formula deck,as RedDog said. His take,some small company with access to a 382 hull,fitted a deck and bought the 382 Taylor windshield. Where is Rippem when we need him?:D

I hope we figure this out. My mind has been wondering all day on what to do. The interior pics I have seen look the same on the 86 39' and the 87 41'. I will keep everyone updated as I learn more. I have a friend who works for the DMV and I think they can run the IN reg number and tell me where and what it is. If it comes back alot different than I am being told I will be more worried. The report I have says the Vessel name is Stinger. I just keep thinking if the boat is solid and needs alittle TLC It could turn out to be a nice boat.

Thanks to everyone again

Mike

Just a guess here, but I think it is a Stinger that they grafted a 382 swim platform and silent thunder box, along with the windshield which has some fabricated fins at the rear to take the place of the deck that should be there on a Formula. Whole lot of work to do all that but Stingers could be had cheap and you only need a salvage 382. Big problem I could foresee is all the grafting being done poorly-you could be leaving pieces as you go. This thing would need to be thoroughly inspected and surveyed before I'd spend a cent on it.

Not true Robert. Little Sunday am research results:

More Stingers:

Look at the cockpit floor, raised bolster mounting blocks, and non-McLeod bolsters. I've never seen this in a Formula.

Look at the 3 color side panels behind the bolsters,I seem to remember CC using these. No padding,just vinyl over hard angled blocks,Formula never did that. Interesting thread going on here.

1984 was the first year the 390X Stinger had the molded swim platform. I have the 83, 84, and 85 brochures, just no 86 or 87.

I do know the guy on the phone said they started to redo the inside but never was finished.

Thanks again

Mike

Photo from the Chris Craft Forum. '85 39 Stinger.

Nailed! You figured it out :drink:

i looked the vin# up on boat history and it is a cc 42' with a 15' beam the name of the boat is stinger gross weight is 14 ton drafts 4' home port is Ft wayne In. every thing checks out on the boat

I did the same thing and got the same info. I do not think some of the info is right. I know when I go to the DMV they hardly know what a boat is or anything about them

So does that mean a new windshield sat back farther and new dash. It could be painted metal I dont know yet. I could see a few changes that would not be that hard to do!

Thanks for the research

Mike

Well if for sure does not have a 15` beam and I do not think it weights 14 ton. Someone has put a vin# on this hodgepodge and is trying to sell it as a Chris Craft Stinger. The interior of the cockpit is all C/C and down in the cabin sez C/C. To be honest this thing is spooky. Looking out of the cockpit over the nose it looks like a Wellcraft as fast as the nose drops off. What a Mess!!!
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The curved windsheild actually extends further forward. That is why the center ridge down the foredeck is notched allowing the windsheild to mount flush onto the deck. The foredeck aft of the windsheild then becomes part of the dash, making the dash deeper. That is why the CC guys think the dash looks so different.

Have heard Stingers had a major problem with rotted stringers. I would have a very extensive structural survey done on this boat if you are still considering buying it.

Maybe you should look around at some used Formulas instead.

WHAT HE SAID!!! RUN FOREST RUN THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING BETTER AROUND THE CORNER!

I am looking for something 38' $25,000 to $35,000

I am not afraid of alittle elbow grease. And I do have a line on motors. But that just add's for money

Thanks

Mike