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Perfectmix 07-10-2007 05:15 PM

353 or 382?
 
Hey guys, I am considering moving back to Formula. I am looking at 353's and 382's. I like the agility of the 353 but the amenaties of the 382 are attractive. Anyone own both boats that can give me some pros and cons? I have owned a 20', 302, 311Kaama, and 357Kamma. I currently own a 38PQ(which is F/S) I love it but everyone in my marina has a PQ now. Time to make a change. Lots of overnights on the boat so I need a decent cabin. Thanks for the input.

RedDog382 07-10-2007 05:18 PM

After having a 382, or in your case a 38 Powerquest, the 353 will seem very small to you. If you are not trailering, I would go with the 382.

Perfectmix 07-10-2007 05:41 PM

I keep my boat on a trailer. The marina I hang out at is the one with all the PQ's. No problem with a 38 or a 35 as far as trailering. Is the ride quality that much better in the 382? I have spoke to a few guys that said they like the balance of the 353 better. Both are sweet boats. Red Dog, you are running Sterling Power aren't you? Sweet 382 BTW.

ninetym 07-10-2007 06:09 PM

have a freind with 353 would love to get a 382 he says there is a big difference in ride. wasnt there a nice 353 right on torch river? also did you get my pm? mark

wrinkleface 07-10-2007 06:55 PM

Call me U Biotchy, I can answer all your ?'s. Get your butt up north!:evilb:

dukenrock 07-10-2007 07:29 PM

382....Need one?:D

Perfectmix 07-10-2007 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by ninetym (Post 2193339)
have a freind with 353 would love to get a 382 he says there is a big difference in ride. wasnt there a nice 353 right on torch river? also did you get my pm? mark

Mark,
Got your PM I may be able to hook you up with a slip. I'll PM ya.
Josh

Perfectmix 07-10-2007 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 2193404)
Call me U Biotchy, I can answer all your ?'s. Get your butt up north!:evilb:

Tracey,
I keep eyeng the Formulas again. I'll give you a shout. Forgot you have owned the entire Formula line up. See you soon

handfulz28 07-10-2007 08:16 PM

Kevin, are you looking to get out of the 382, or you just itching to make a deal with Nelems on a new one? :D

Maybe this is a decent time for me to hijack and ask how the 382, 353 and 311SR1 cockpits compare? As much as I love the engine room space when I have to get in there, I find myself wishing there was more room between the bench and the bucket seats. My knee has found that grab handle a few too many times...

RedDog382 07-10-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectmix (Post 2193310)
Red Dog, you are running Sterling Power aren't you? Sweet 382 BTW.

Thanks. Engines were originally done by Sterling, but lets say there were few major problems recently that I have an issue with. I took them to someone else for refresh over the winter and am satisfied so far.

382 is a bit more of a job to tow than my 311 was. Needed to modify my storage building to fit the 382 also. But wouldn't give up the ride, room, and amenities of the 382 now.

Lot of room in front of the engines.

dukenrock 07-11-2007 07:37 AM

If I make a change, it won't be for another 382. I really like mine. If I make any changes, it would have to be pretty radical.

Formula's website has a nice site where it shows the specs of the 353 and 382 for comparison purposes. Kelly and I overnight alot on the 382-Would not have considered a 353 for that. (IMO) AC/GenSet was a must when I was looking.

Chris, I like the diamondplating in the engine compartment. :drink:


382:
LOA 38' 2" 11.63 m
Maximum Beam 8' 3" 2.51 m
Approx. Weight 10,450 lbs 4,740 kg
Cabin Headroom 5' 1" 1.55 m
Fuel Capacity 195 gal 738 L
Water Capacity 19 gal 72 L
Holding Tank Capacity (opt.) 6.5 gal 25 L
Bridge Clearance (Light Load) 5' 6" 1.68 m
Draft 33" .84 m
Deadrise 24° 24°


353:
LOA 35' 3" 10.74 m
Maximum Beam 8' 3" 2.51 m
Approx. Weight 9,500 lbs 4,309 kg
Cabin Headroom 4' 10" 1.47 m
Fuel Capacity 149 gal 564 L
Water Capacity 19 gal 72 L
Holding Tank Capacity (opt.) 6.5 gal 25 L
Bridge Clearance (Light Load) 5' 4" 1.63 m
Draft 36" .91 m
Deadrise 24° 24°




Originally Posted by handfulz28 (Post 2193514)
Kevin, are you looking to get out of the 382, or you just itching to make a deal with Nelems on a new one? :D

Maybe this is a decent time for me to hijack and ask how the 382, 353 and 311SR1 cockpits compare? As much as I love the engine room space when I have to get in there, I find myself wishing there was more room between the bench and the bucket seats. My knee has found that grab handle a few too many times...


Car Biz 07-11-2007 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Perfectmix (Post 2193263)
Hey guys, I am considering moving back to Formula. I am looking at 353's and 382's. I like the agility of the 353 but the amenaties of the 382 are attractive. I currently own a 38PQ(which is F/S) I love it but everyone in my marina has a PQ now.

woohoo :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: when i was talking to on the phone i could here it in your voice you wanted another FORMULA:drink:

RedDog382 07-11-2007 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by dukenrock (Post 2193900)
(IMO) AC/GenSet was a must when I was looking.

Chris, I like the diamondplating in the engine compartment. :drink:


Thanks, Kevin. One of last years many projects. Looking forward to downing spirits and checking out the boats with you next week.

Want to take a look at your generator rigging. I have a 6.5KW Kohler generator that came with the boat but has never been installed. Now that I have my engine problems sorted out, I will be installing it and want to get some ideas from yours.

dukenrock 07-11-2007 09:00 AM

Thursday night would be a great night to start! With everything you've done to your boat this year the genset should be a piece of cake for you. There's gonna be some nice rides so I will have the batteries charged in the camara this time! I'm especially interested in one:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 2193993)
Thanks, Kevin. One of last years many projects. Looking forward to downing spirits and checking out the boats with you next week.

Want to take a look at your generator rigging. I have a 6.5KW Kohler generator that came with the boat but has never been installed. Now that I have my engine problems sorted out, I will be installing it and want to get some ideas from yours.


yzbert 07-11-2007 12:00 PM

i cant imagine that you would like the space or the storage in either of them coming from a 38 quest. i have also heard that the 353 is better a balanced boat. not sure what that means or if i would have the ability to tell...been in a and ran with a 353 plenty of times, nice boats. never riden in a 382. there is a very clean 353 in petoskey for sale if you are interested give me a shout. good luck I love boat shopping.

t500hps 07-11-2007 01:23 PM

We just did 5 days in a 382......with 3 boys age 5, 8, 11. The trip was great and the boys loved it. But with 5 people for 5 days that thing seemed like the size of a canoe by the time we got home!!! :eek:

Then as I'm pulling up to my dock (finally home!!!) a guy in a center console comes and asks me to tow a broke down 30 footer to a local marina!!! Man that sucked, I was so ready to get off the water but couldn't leave the guy floating.

wrinkleface 07-11-2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by yzbert (Post 2194220)
i cant imagine that you would like the space or the storage in either of them coming from a 38 quest. i have also heard that the 353 is better a balanced boat. not sure what that means or if i would have the ability to tell...been in a and ran with a 353 plenty of times, nice boats. never riden in a 382. there is a very clean 353 in petoskey for sale if you are interested give me a shout. good luck I love boat shopping.

Get off this forum scumbag!:evilb:

Full Force 07-11-2007 09:47 PM

382 will have more room but will take alot to go fast, A 353 has decent room and run pretty fast and ride nice, I never rode in a 382 but I am sure it is nice, depends mostly on what is more inportant, room or speed?

Perfectmix 07-11-2007 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 2194354)
We just did 5 days in a 382......with 3 boys age 5, 8, 11. The trip was great and the boys loved it. But with 5 people for 5 days that thing seemed like the size of a canoe by the time we got home!!! :eek:

Then as I'm pulling up to my dock (finally home!!!) a guy in a center console comes and asks me to tow a broke down 30 footer to a local marina!!! Man that sucked, I was so ready to get off the water but couldn't leave the guy floating.

I'm not sure there is a boat big enough for that crew :D. Nice of you to lend a helping hand also.

Perfectmix 07-11-2007 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by yzbert (Post 2194220)
i cant imagine that you would like the space or the storage in either of them coming from a 38 quest. i have also heard that the 353 is better a balanced boat. not sure what that means or if i would have the ability to tell...been in a and ran with a 353 plenty of times, nice boats. never riden in a 382. there is a very clean 353 in petoskey for sale if you are interested give me a shout. good luck I love boat shopping.

Hmmm..maybe I should be looking at the 37AT's. I've heard good things. You running Boyne Thunder again Scott?

Perfectmix 07-11-2007 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 2193537)
Thanks. Engines were originally done by Sterling, but lets say there were few major problems recently that I have an issue with. I took them to someone else for refresh over the winter and am satisfied so far.

382 is a bit more of a job to tow than my 311 was. Needed to modify my storage building to fit the 382 also. But wouldn't give up the ride, room, and amenities of the 382 now.

Lot of room in front of the engines.

Interesting, Glad you got the problems sorted out, sorry to here of the troubles. Thanks for the input.

sleek1 07-11-2007 10:43 PM

I've been told the 35 has a "sportier ride" compared to the 38.

Perfectmix 07-11-2007 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by sleek1 (Post 2195047)
I've been told the 35 has a "sportier ride" compared to the 38.

I like to think I'm a sporty guy :) but the bells and whistles are hard to overlook. I've have heard the same thing about the two boats.

wrinkleface 07-12-2007 03:40 AM

Little Scotty is do'n Boyne! Said he has 2 defend his title!!! Lucky Bazztard!!

JB4Boyne 07-12-2007 02:00 PM

That's right, Scott is still wearing the Boyne Thunder crown isn't he:drink:


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