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Old 08-25-2008, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Magic34
With the NXT drives, the price has to be knee buckling.
It is a $70,000 Upgrade over the Standard 496HO motors before discount.
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Originally Posted by cmcjo
Yeah these motors work on the 350 SS but I would think they would not be sufficient for the larger 400. Formulas website claims 60 Mph speed but didnt mention what engine package.
I think that is with the 525's. A while back Procharger did an upgrade to the 400SS as a test - can't get the 502 / 415hp anymore, but I would think the 600's might get you in the ballpark - if Formula would put them in there. Here's the quote:


“Named Blown Sleeper, the 15,000-pound boat [Formula 400 Ss cruiser] was clocked by radar at an un-cruiser like 66 mph. With a pair of stock MerCruiser 502 Mag MPI engines...and a ProCharger Stage I [M-1] system bolted to each engine...it turned more than a few heads”.
– Boating, March 2000, p. 155
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Originally Posted by cmcjo
It is a $70,000 Upgrade over the Standard 496HO motors before discount.
Dealer cost on 496 to 525 is about $12k more. I haven't seen the dealer number on the NXT.
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I dont think they offer the Axius with the 525's. My 400SS with 525's and a hard top will do 60 mph. Best I seen was 61.2. From 55 mph and up is really tweeking it and takes a long time. This also depends on loading and fuel. I can get to 55 anytime with typical loading.

On the engine and drive package: I love the 525's but the drives have been a problem, Both drives have been rebuilt before 100 hours. I bought it as a "demo" I have been carefull but still had to have them rebuilt. (under warranty) I am hoping now I will not have problems and the "demo" hours are what messed them up to start but time will tell. I did not blow them but the gears showed excessive wear and I could hear a slight grinding. When they tore them down they discovered the wear.
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Originally Posted by Raypanic
I dont think they offer the Axius with the 525's. My 400SS with 525's and a hard top will do 60 mph. Best I seen was 61.2. From 55 mph and up is really tweeking it and takes a long time. This also depends on loading and fuel. I can get to 55 anytime with typical loading.

On the engine and drive package: I love the 525's but the drives have been a problem, Both drives have been rebuilt before 100 hours. I bought it as a "demo" I have been carefull but still had to have them rebuilt. (under warranty) I am hoping now I will not have problems and the "demo" hours are what messed them up to start but time will tell. I did not blow them but the gears showed excessive wear and I could hear a slight grinding. When they tore them down they discovered the wear.


That is one beautiful boat Raypanic..I wish they would offer the big Yanmars and some asd-7's or 8's...
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Uhhh, you're a cruiser guy you're meant to go slow. When you plow a couch that fast all you do is throw a huge wake that annoys the real powerboaters. I was on a 38 sundancer doing a solid 34.1 Mph yesterday, owner was grinning ear to ear.
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Originally Posted by Magic34
Dealer cost on 496 to 525 is about $12k more. I haven't seen the dealer number on the NXT.
big-time markup. thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by 5PMSMWHR
Uhhh, you're a cruiser guy you're meant to go slow. When you plow a couch that fast all you do is throw a huge wake that annoys the real powerboaters. I was on a 38 sundancer doing a solid 34.1 Mph yesterday, owner was grinning ear to ear.
35 is too slow for me. It gets boring real fast. 50 on my boat and its comfortable. You can see the gas guage moving but its fun. I think I saw about 80 GPH for a while.
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Originally Posted by cmcjo
big-time markup. thanks for the info.

Damn, it's okay to 'make a living', but don't cut my eyes out. I know about charging whatever the market will bear, but my word, it looks like Formula would make more money and make more people happy by decreasing the profit margin on these things. Thus creating a 'dog chasing his tail' effect, i.e., happy customers equal more sales. And move more volume too. But then....what do I know. I'm just a customer with money in his pocket. And don't know zip about economics 101.
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