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Old 01-13-2010 | 06:45 PM
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Commander,with all due respect,I'm out of this.If you only buy wholesale,that's fine.I don't do wholesale.A $100 sale of silver vinyl is not worth all of this drama.Formula boats are expensive,their parts are also expensive,but they offer a level of service that no other builder does.That $36 switch is about right,you shouldn't blame the dealer.I think you might be better off to find an alternate non-Formula supplier if you want to buy cheap,and it can be done.However,I don't want to be involved. Hope you understand.Peace,Robert Nelems
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Old 01-14-2010 | 10:40 PM
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Peace it is.

Sorry to bother you.

But since I'm here...

My wife drives a decent car. They have a great warranty, and service like no other. For a wearable part....ohhh....brakes...wipers....wiper fluid.....

Should I buy Bosch wiper blades from the dealer because they make a "great" car? The dealer charges 75.....

They are $26 each at Bumper to Bumper. There is no difference in the quality, the dealer is just "proud"...

Great. I am all for the dealer making a profit....thats why they are there and why I will see them again when I make another purchase. I get it. However....

BMW does NOT make wiper blades. Their choice to use Bosch, or Mobile is simply to reinforce the value of the product that represents their brand....

Does Formula make a great product? Absolutely. Do they use materials of a high quality to prop up their brand image? Absolutely. Does that mean that they are justified in gouging....no way. Formula doesn't MAKE vinyl. They made a choice to use Moebern and I don't have access to it locally. Going through them does not make sense simply on principal. I don't believe in the "something for nothing" type of mentality that has pushed a measureable weight of the GDP into the likes of WalMart.

I'm in the biz. I know what stuff costs. Period. I have money, but it's not to give away. That's the way America went titties up....
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Old 01-15-2010 | 06:25 AM
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[QUOTE=commandersander;3024331]Peace it is.

Sorry to bother you.

But since I'm here...

My wife drives a decent car. They have a great warranty, and service like no other. For a wearable part....ohhh....brakes...wipers....wiper fluid.....

Should I buy Bosch wiper blades from the dealer because they make a "great" car? The dealer charges 75.....

They are $26 each at Bumper to Bumper. There is no difference in the quality, the dealer is just "proud"...

Great. I am all for the dealer making a profit....thats why they are there and why I will see them again when I make another purchase. I get it. However....

BMW does NOT make wiper blades. Their choice to use Bosch, or Mobile is simply to reinforce the value of the product that represents their brand....

Does Formula make a great product? Absolutely. Do they use materials of a high quality to prop up their brand image? Absolutely. Does that mean that they are justified in gouging....no way. Formula doesn't MAKE vinyl. They made a choice to use Moebern and I don't have access to it locally. Going through them does not make sense simply on principal. I don't believe in the "something for nothing" type of mentality that has pushed a measureable weight of the GDP into the likes of WalMart.

I'm in the biz. I know what stuff costs. Period. I have money, but it's not to give away. That's the way America went titties up....[/QUOTE]

If you are in the biz.. handle it yourself...this is an expensive hobby, stuff happens. Complaining over a 36 switch and then commenting on how you got taken...let alone giving Magic Float a hard time... is ridicules... take up sail boating, that may be more your speed..and less breaks there... and you can have all the titties you want
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Old 01-15-2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by commandersander
Peace it is.

Sorry to bother you.

But since I'm here...

My wife drives a decent car. They have a great warranty, and service like no other. For a wearable part....ohhh....brakes...wipers....wiper fluid.....

Should I buy Bosch wiper blades from the dealer because they make a "great" car? The dealer charges 75.....

They are $26 each at Bumper to Bumper. There is no difference in the quality, the dealer is just "proud"...

Great. I am all for the dealer making a profit....thats why they are there and why I will see them again when I make another purchase. I get it. However....

BMW does NOT make wiper blades. Their choice to use Bosch, or Mobile is simply to reinforce the value of the product that represents their brand....

Does Formula make a great product? Absolutely. Do they use materials of a high quality to prop up their brand image? Absolutely. Does that mean that they are justified in gouging....no way. Formula doesn't MAKE vinyl. They made a choice to use Moebern and I don't have access to it locally. Going through them does not make sense simply on principal. I don't believe in the "something for nothing" type of mentality that has pushed a measureable weight of the GDP into the likes of WalMart.

I'm in the biz. I know what stuff costs. Period. I have money, but it's not to give away. That's the way America went titties up....
I feel you missed the point. It appears to me you want a Formula dealer to sell to you at or barely over their cost - at least that is the message you sent. So tell me why they should bare their overhead to make such a sweet deal to you?

I have no skin in this, and am not trying to create a sh!t storm here, but it gripes me when we all think we should get rewarded for our jobs each day, but someone else in business ought to give their stuff away.

Sorry for the rant.

Jeff J - I am under 50 days. You got everything in order for Colette and me? I will be feeling like a celebration. Just got home from Juicy's and commented to him that I am coming south. Still not sure if he is tagging along.
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Old 01-15-2010 | 07:42 PM
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Jeff J - I am under 50 days. You got everything in order for Colette and me? I will be feeling like a celebration. Just got home from Juicy's and commented to him that I am coming south. Still not sure if he is tagging along.
We are ready for all of you.... looking forward to it...
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Old 01-15-2010 | 08:12 PM
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We are ready for all of you.... looking forward to it...
Me too - I am really looking forward to it. Hope everything your way is going OK. Can you please do something about those damn little bugs that bite my legs though!
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Old 01-15-2010 | 10:10 PM
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Really? It's gonna be great. Gonna be a big week....

C'mon Jass....don't pick a fight. I never gave Magic a hard time. I was told that he could get the stuff, so I asked. He never gave me a price, and I never debated it. I only said that I was NOT willing to let the dealer make a killing for a phone call...so if Magic is a dealer, and my course of thought has offended...I am sorry. It was not my intention. If he is not, then I am very confused, but still apologize if I offended.

I just don't subscibe. No biggie. No hard feelings.

As far as your advice for the rest of the thread, go phuck yourself. It was uncalled for, unnecessary and down right rude. If you have nothing to add that will help out, just hang onto it.

From your response, I believe ernestly that you could experience some serious personal growth by heeding my suggestion....
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Old 01-15-2010 | 10:43 PM
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Who's true colors are coming out now?
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Old 01-15-2010 | 10:47 PM
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I guess you want to sparr now too?

Why?

Whats the point?

I made the necessary apology where it was due....if in fact I did offend Magic. Now you and Jass want to gang up on me for somthing that neither of you even offered to assist with?

Bizarre, the two of you.

Keep fighting the retail fight....
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Old 01-15-2010 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by commandersander
I guess you want to sparr now too?

Why?

Whats the point?

I made the necessary apology where it was due....if in fact I did offend Magic. Now you and Jass want to gang up on me for somthing that neither of you even offered to assist with?

Bizarre, the two of you.

Keep fighting the retail fight....
It's not about picking any fight, it's about attitude - yours started the whole thing. There are some BS and some pretty up front people on this site - and when you come off as demanding that you only pay wholesale, which is what a dealer would pay - it comes off as though your attitude is their value to our community is very low in your opinion.

Just my read on your comments.
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