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redbud35 01-18-2010 01:37 PM

I've been told I can. Don't really want to spend the money though.

selpel 01-18-2010 10:39 PM

You can change the drives out to XR`s but the boat will take forever to get on plane. It needs the lift of the dual props, we change out a set of drives for Pro-Charger when they were testing a package for 400SS and it gain about 5 MPH but sucked taking off.

The real deal is how are you going to use the boat? Do you plan on running 50 to 60 all the time?
But if you look at the crusing speed of the smaller Volvo Diesel against any of the gas engine options you will find it has a higher speed and much better fuel mileage than any package offered in gas.

I know the up charge is high for diesels but so are the cost of 525`s............Capt.Steve........Glencove Marine.....:cool::cool:

C_Spray 01-19-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by selpel (Post 3026872)
...The real deal is how are you going to use the boat? Do you plan on running 50 to 60 all the time?
But if you look at the crusing speed of the smaller Volvo Diesel against any of the gas engine options you will find it has a higher (cruise) speed and much better fuel mileage than any package offered in gas...

That's exactly the key point. I've ridden on 400SS's with 500's, 525's and the VP diesels. No question - the diesels are best. They deliver over 1.5 mpg at a brisk cruise and come with virtually unbreakable drives; monsters that look like #6's with 2 props. They'll plant you in the seat at takeoff, too.

selpel 01-19-2010 08:37 PM

If you have NOT had a chance to test drive a Diesel boat..........Try one before you buy!

I cannot count how many go-fast boat owners I have taken out in a Diesel 400SS and all I ever heard was WOW! what an awesome ride
and the power was great.

I have sold 4 Diesel 400SS in the past 5 years and the people that own them are crazy about them. The last one I sold ran 50MPH w/full fuel tanks. A 425hp gas boat will see maybe 52-53MPH. One cruises at 3000 rpm at 29-30mph the other at I believe was 2300 at 38mph.............What a ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!............:cool::cool:

selpel 01-19-2010 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3027025)
That's exactly the key point. I've ridden on 400SS's with 500's, 525's and the VP diesels. No question - the diesels are best. They deliver over 1.5 mpg at a brisk cruise and come with virtually unbreakable drives; monsters that look like #6's with 2 props. They'll plant you in the seat at takeoff, too.

Thats from turbo charge plus superchargers and they do not smell like diesel either!.................:cool::cool:

Back4More 01-19-2010 10:02 PM

Can they be pushed hard to make up for the slow cruise speed? Like running at a consistant 45mph?

selpel 01-19-2010 10:15 PM

If you ran a gas boat at 45mph and a diesel boat at the same speed
I have to believe the diesel boat WILL be the last boat running! Diesel trucks now days run a million miles without a problem and I do not know a gas truck that can match that!.............:cool:

Back4More 01-19-2010 11:03 PM

So its not a problem to run the VP Diesel at 45mph for about 40 miles? Thats my harbor to Chicago or Milwaukee.

blownincome 01-20-2010 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3027025)
That's exactly the key point. I've ridden on 400SS's with 500's, 525's and the VP diesels. No question - the diesels are best. They deliver over 1.5 mpg at a brisk cruise and come with virtually unbreakable drives; monsters that look like #6's with 2 props. They'll plant you in the seat at takeoff, too.

I agree Drove one from Newport RI to Norwalk NJ in some big water and when the smaller formulas with gas power were sucking air I still had a half tank .. Good time to Plane and good speed outran a 32 w/ 496s my .02 BFM Dan @ Eastcoast Flightcraft Might still have one in stock that came up from another dealer 978-777-1721

Spicy 01-20-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3026308)
have you talked to spicy about his? he just put 496 ho's in it and its a great deal on a good lookin boat...


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3026325)
I think they are awesome... I wish Formula would offer the large 480hp Cummins Diesel/NXT package or 480 Yanmar with the ASD-8's.

Like Rob stated Spicy's 40ss is a good deal, looks great by the pics, and is updated.


Here you go

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...POWER-92784080


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3026329)
I know, it is clean and updated...even considered a trade.
Would like an 02-04 with 500's and Blue or Black sides.

Thanks Guys... I actually had two calls on the boat and showed it last night, dont know how effective it is showing a boat that is shrinkwrapped on land but we will see... as with everybody he is very interested in boat but has a 35 cafe he has to sell in order to buy... so may take cafe in on trade and blow it out here on the board for a quick sale?? I'm leaving to go to the Caribbean in a few days for a week so I will worry about all this when I get back... :eek::evilb:

But I do have my eye on a sweet 38 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ that I want so we shall see how everything shakes out...

Back 4 More,
if it was warmer I would invite you down to Annapolis for the weekend as I have a few buddies that I hang with every weekend and there 400SS are:
Mine, 99 with 496's
Tantra 03 Blue Hull with yanmars and Bravo 3's
Black Pearl, 05 Black Hull sides with Volvo Diesels
Too Slow, 07 hardtop black w/ Volvo's

you can look at every color and engine package that your describing at one Tiki Bar... :party-smiley-004:


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