okay, im a fountain guy.. never have really liked formulas to much.. NO OFFENCE to anyone, im not saying there a bad boat... but ive come across this. and i need someone to either talk me into it or out of it cause im in between that right now. Please help everyone!!

http://www.yachtauctions.com/listing.php?vessel=5301

what part do you need help with, theres not many 419 owners out there.

much bigger! probably much slower... still wish to see one in person!

i dont know. just never have owned a formula.. ive owned fountain scarab baja and have ridden in almost every other manufacture just never really rode in a formula, i thing i have once and it wasnt a far ride and it was to calm out to see how it was iun rough water. Trips- what does ur boat do at top speed? how does it handle. pleasse let me know

I have a 97 with trip 525 sc's. Boat ran 80-83 mph in Florida heat (80 summer, 83 winter). this boat crushes 5-6 footers with no issues. My buddy (38 Nortec owner) couldn't believe the difference from his 38. I think that boat is probably under powered and the drives are way too deep. Later year 419's went with stelling boxes and 525's. Obviously, the boat can take whatever power you want to put into it. I'm currently re-building mine as the cmi's puked 2 of the 3 engines. Best bolster seats in the game. Went to the 38 EC because with a family of 4, the 419 just didn't have the cabin room as we stay on the boat for 4-5 days at a time when we boat. trips burn gas, but so does my 38 ec, just a little less, that's all. I don't think you would be disappointed in the build quality, ride and comfort of the boat, just need a little more power to make a formula sing.

thank you so much for the help!! im still loking into it, but for what i may be able to get it for i could probley put it back on the market after cleaning and ect and make money

This man knows what he's talking about.

I still Say a 419 with Staggered big power ..... but who's got the Kahona's and $$$$$$$$$$$$$ ......

you'd be much better off with my 311 ....

http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthr...578#post229578

Back in 2000 a local guy tried to get Formula to build a staggered 419.....when they wouldn't, he asked them to build one with a closed transom (no engines/drives/etc) so he could build it himself......they wouldn't. (bet they would now)

I bet so too. Talked to Steph at McLain.. Said Formula had not placed an order in about a year...m