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DoubleThunder 02-08-2015 09:36 PM

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HMMM not sure if Im doing this right

DoubleThunder 02-08-2015 09:53 PM

Ok Loading the pic worked. So in this pic the plexus is come apart. Whats left on there peels off pretty easy. Theres about an 8' span on both sides without any through bolt but the rest is every 18" or so. So if this stuff worked right I should have glass shredding instead of this ? The way it peels off reminds me of when you caulk something on a dusty surface then after it dries it comes right off. If I hit it with adhesive then through bolt the crap out of it and screw where the Head is and other areas I cant get to I dont see it moving. I can add a sealant after its bolted in case the adhesive splits again and it should be watertight
Thoughts

jriggs 02-09-2015 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by DoubleThunder (Post 4262319)
Ok Loading the pic worked. So in this pic the plexus is come apart. Whats left on there peels off pretty easy. Theres about an 8' span on both sides without any through bolt but the rest is every 18" or so. So if this stuff worked right I should have glass shredding instead of this ? The way it peels off reminds me of when you caulk something on a dusty surface then after it dries it comes right off. If I hit it with adhesive then through bolt the crap out of it and screw where the Head is and other areas I cant get to I dont see it moving. I can add a sealant after its bolted in case the adhesive splits again and it should be watertight
Thoughts

Formula told me it will take approx. 4 tubes of Plexus to re-do the entire boat (this is for a 382 though).

DoubleThunder 02-10-2015 05:33 AM

Thanks for the input. Did you do yours yet ?

jriggs 02-10-2015 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by DoubleThunder (Post 4262838)
Thanks for the input. Did you do yours yet ?

No, my boat is in cold storage, so I am going to wait till April time frame when it is a little warmer.

fossil fuel 02-12-2015 08:59 PM

The plexus will be WAY stronger than the through bolts. I see the bolts as a assembly aid. If both surfaces are clean and the plex is the correct squeeze it will not come apart! Do not over squeeze as you would assembling furniture. The plex must be left in the joint to chemically penetrate the fiberglass. Good luck.

Level III Chaos 03-28-2016 01:45 AM

Spring time! Check your boat! :)

Fischan 03-28-2016 10:45 PM

It will be interesting to see how many boats actually have bonding issues. The more the word gets out the more owners will be investigating...

drumerjb 03-29-2016 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Expensive Date (Post 3323499)
So in the picture were the hull and deck was not bonded at the factory,did Formula still say it was driver error?
I believe this is also the cause of water in the cabin that has been asked about many times.There are probably hulls out there that have not separated but are not sealed.And this is were the water is coming in.

I m on post 155 of 30 some pages on this thread. I have read all the posts to this point. I can not believe the amount of incompetence on part of Formula & there avoidance to take responsibility. And once again it boils down to the almighty dollar. I m in the market for a formula. Just by the evasive response of there reply is enough for me to look elsewhere. I hope as I read on they take in part responsibility. Wow,this is unbelievable. :eekdrop:One of the most important processes in boat building & the preliminary failure rate looks poor to say the least.

RT930turbo 03-30-2016 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by drumerjb (Post 4422035)
I m on post 155 of 30 some pages on this thread. I have read all the posts to this point. I can not believe the amount of incompetence on part of Formula & there avoidance to take responsibility. And once again it boils down to the almighty dollar. I m in the market for a formula. Just by the evasive response of there reply is enough for me to look elsewhere. I hope as I read on they take in part responsibility. Wow,this is unbelievable. :eekdrop:One of the most important processes in boat building & the preliminary failure rate looks poor to say the least.

Formula was very reasonable when jriggs and I worked with them to fix our boats last year. They somewhat stonewalled at first, but in hindsight that's understandable. The reality is is isn't a huge fix, believe it or not, and they made the process painless. Cost me about a $100 bill, a case of beer (well 5 cases if you count what riggs drank :lolhit:) and a day of my life. No big deal.


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