Hydrolocked 420
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From: West Bridgewater,MA
1988 Formula 311 420's B/W Trs about 500 hrs. Gil manifolds
I opened up my boat yesterday to find one motor fine and the other was locked up. I took all the belts off to make sure it wasn't an accessory locked up and put a wrench on the crank and could move it a little. I pulled all the plugs and #5 was wet. Cranked it over and out came a bunch of water. I did a compression check and #5 had 225 psi, just like all the other cylinders except #7 and #3 which only had 160.
I know water didn't sit in there all winter because it cranked for a little bit and then locked up, so it was obviously in the exhaust and as soon as that valve opened it just filled the cylinder
I pulled the manifold on that side and pressure tested it and found a pin hole right in the #5 vane. I know it didnt freeze because when I drained that manifold it was full of antifreeze. (I meant to drain it when I winterized it but I guess I missed one)
My question is why do you think those other two cylinders have lower compression, and what should I do next? Im gonna replace all four manifolds.
Also I'm looking for 4 Gil manifolds in good shape, preferably fresh water, or headers for reasonable money
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Chris
I opened up my boat yesterday to find one motor fine and the other was locked up. I took all the belts off to make sure it wasn't an accessory locked up and put a wrench on the crank and could move it a little. I pulled all the plugs and #5 was wet. Cranked it over and out came a bunch of water. I did a compression check and #5 had 225 psi, just like all the other cylinders except #7 and #3 which only had 160.
I know water didn't sit in there all winter because it cranked for a little bit and then locked up, so it was obviously in the exhaust and as soon as that valve opened it just filled the cylinder
I pulled the manifold on that side and pressure tested it and found a pin hole right in the #5 vane. I know it didnt freeze because when I drained that manifold it was full of antifreeze. (I meant to drain it when I winterized it but I guess I missed one)
My question is why do you think those other two cylinders have lower compression, and what should I do next? Im gonna replace all four manifolds.
Also I'm looking for 4 Gil manifolds in good shape, preferably fresh water, or headers for reasonable money
Thanks
Chris
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You may just have rust on the valves from the moisture in the exhaust, this will cause improper sealing. You could pull the rockers off and smack the valves with a hammer a couple of times, this will sometimes bring the compression up. I might also suggest a leakdown while you have them off, that will tell you if it's past the valves or not.
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Isn't the 200+ a little on the high side? Also I am assuming the motors are cold? If so they get them warm before doing the test. The higher numbers could be that you still have water in the piston.
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My question is why do you think those other two cylinders have lower compression, and what should I do next? Im gonna replace all four manifolds.
I'm going with the rust on the valve seat theory and/or compression rings. Squirt some Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders and let it sit for a few days...should work a "miracle" on the rings and seats. Run it and re-check.
Don't freak...you're probably ok.
I'm going with the rust on the valve seat theory and/or compression rings. Squirt some Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders and let it sit for a few days...should work a "miracle" on the rings and seats. Run it and re-check.
Don't freak...you're probably ok.
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Chris, I posted in the tech section before I saw this. I agree change the oil,bring it up to temp,and recheck.You should be O K. Swap the exhaust from the other motor,after you pressure test off coarse,and run it. Good luck.




