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kreed 01-09-2012 01:04 PM

X-Dim on a 382 Fastech
 
Hi guys. Will be putting Stelling extension boxes on a 1999 382 that was not rigged with them from the factory. Does this pose a problem with my x-dim and drive depth? Is the x-dim raised at the factory when a boat is rigged with extension boxes? The drives are stock length IMCO extremes. Any help would be appriciated..

RedDog382 01-09-2012 01:34 PM

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I know Formula did a lot of experimentation to arrive at the optimal X-dimension on the 382. I think one would be wasting a lot of time and money trying to change it from factory specs. I refinished my Stellings a few years ago and reset them to factory height. Hope some of these photos help. You can always check with Formula TAG ... they are always very heplful with techincal questions like this.

Unlimited jd 01-09-2012 01:37 PM

I hope it's the same, I don't have time to do the transom in that thing to raise it! Lol good luck!

RedDog382 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

I'm willing to bet the transom cutout is the same. Mine are on the center hole of the three for height adjustment. Can't get a measurement for you right now as the boat is in my building in Ohio, but I think it was 3" from the notch to the bottom of the Stelings box.

Unlimited jd 01-09-2012 01:58 PM

So if anything is different it's in the box not the actual crank centerline height in the hull

TxHawk 01-09-2012 03:48 PM

Correct, but I wouldn't use the bottom hole. That tends to be hard on drive shafts.

Kreed, you should send the boxes to Stellings to have them aligned while they are off.

Lets see some pics of the new ride.

Unlimited jd 01-09-2012 04:10 PM

He should leave them where they are and save any and all aggravation ! Just looking out for your mental health Kevin! Don't want you to get stressed out!

kreed 01-09-2012 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 3589358)
I know Formula did a lot of experimentation to arrive at the optimal X-dimension on the 382. I think one would be wasting a lot of time and money trying to change it from factory specs. I refinished my Stellings a few years ago and reset them to factory height. Hope some of these photos help. You can always check with Formula TAG ... they are always very heplful with techincal questions like this.

Thanks for the help... azz-end looks nice! You running dry exhaust?

kreed 01-09-2012 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3589493)
He should leave them where they are and save any and all aggravation ! Just looking out for your mental health Kevin! Don't want you to get stressed out!

Jamie, Ive been stressed out for 3 months! Just about done now, less than a week and I should be able to breath. Boxes are worth 3 MPH, theyre comin with me! haha.....enless you got some 10-71's you want to trade? Ill make up the speed somehow!

kreed 01-09-2012 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by TxHawk (Post 3589465)
Correct, but I wouldn't use the bottom hole. That tends to be hard on drive shafts.

Kreed, you should send the boxes to Stellings to have them aligned while they are off.

Lets see some pics of the new ride.


Matt, thanks,I will send them out. Didnt realize that was part of the maintainence. Ill put them on in neutral hole. Just wanted to be sure holes cut in transom werent in a different location with or without the extension boxes......I want to run dry exhaust on this boat....the engines should sound pretty good dry! Pics to come soon.

RedDog382 01-09-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3589497)
Thanks for the help... azz-end looks nice! You running dry exhaust?

Thanks Kreed! The Stellings boxes just make any boat look sick.

Previous owner had 950 hp blower motors w Stellings headers, therefore the water dumps on the transom. I have CMI elbow tops with water re-entering at the tip of the tails just outside the transom. Still sounds pretty healthy but not obnoxious. GGB mufflers keep the DNR guys from getting too eager to stop/board my vessel.

If you have the hardware off the transom, you might want to seal all the exposed surfaces with epoxy to prevent water intrusion and eventual dryrot. Also had my fiberglass guy do this when I had my boxes off.

RedDog382 01-09-2012 06:18 PM

Note in the last photo above that we placed a small notch in the center at the bottom of the cutout to allow water to drain out into the bilge and not collect in this area.

1MOSES1 01-09-2012 08:15 PM

Red dog, was the wood exposed when you removed the original outdrives? I thought formula sealed all the cut outs?

SS930 01-09-2012 08:42 PM

I can't believe how many boats from so many different manufactures left the factory with the bare wood exposed, really sad! So much for attention to detail... :(

1MOSES1 01-09-2012 08:58 PM

No thanks to scot I have the answer to my own question.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...ech-way-2.html

RedDog382 01-10-2012 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3589774)
Red dog, was the wood exposed when you removed the original outdrives? I thought formula sealed all the cut outs?

Formula does seal the cutouts. You can still see some of the white gelcoat in the corners of the cutout. No bare wood, but the gelcoat was starting to break down so together with my fiberglass guy (who used to work for the Navy and fixed all the stuff the Seals broke), we decided it was best to sand everything down to bare wood and seal it with epoxy while it was apart to prevent problems with water entry down the road.

SS930 01-10-2012 09:07 AM

That's good to know. OTOH, as I mentioned I've seen various boats over the years that have had the raw wood exposed... I can't imagine why anyone would let that go out of an OEM like that! Probably just laziness and saving a buck. :(

SS930 01-10-2012 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3589805)
No thanks to scot I have the answer to my own question.

Did I owe you an answer to something? :confused:

1MOSES1 01-10-2012 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3590051)
Did I owe you an answer to something? :confused:

No, but I know your exact intention!!!!

SS930 01-10-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by TxHawk (Post 3589465)
Kreed, you should send the boxes to Stellings to have them aligned while they are off.


Curious... What exactly are they aligning/aligning to when this is done? What changes over time?

TxHawk 01-10-2012 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3590055)
Curious... What exactly are they aligning/aligning to when this is done? What changes over time?

The carriers have shims to align with the gimbal. They bolt in and seem to move over time. The carrier takes the place of the coupler, so its like aligning the engine. They really are a mess. They are great in that you can move them, but the IMCO with the long shaft into a coupler seems like a better deal. It takes two U joints and a carrier out of the equation.

Think, you have an adapter on the flywheel with drive shaft bolted to that, U-Joints on both ends of a short drive shaft then bolted to a flange that rides in the carrier. From there you have the input shaft of the drive which has more joints.

Honestly seems like a spinning mess waiting to happen but they look cool!

SS930 01-10-2012 09:56 AM

Gotcha, thanks for explaining that!

SS930 01-10-2012 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3590053)
No, but I know your exact intention!!!!

I dont think you did based on your comment. ;)

kreed 01-11-2012 07:09 AM

I assume now that Im adding boxes, Im gonna need a longer shift cable?

PremierPOWER 01-11-2012 09:45 AM

No, it is the same shift cable. Make sure you anchor the cable otherwise it could get torn up in the driveline.

Andy

kreed 01-13-2012 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 3590938)
No, it is the same shift cable. Make sure you anchor the cable otherwise it could get torn up in the driveline.

Andy

Will do, thank you...

SS930 01-18-2012 06:40 AM

I don't know why you'd give up that beautiful Tiger, it sure is pretty! :party-smiley-004:

kreed 01-25-2012 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3595879)
I don't know why you'd give up that beautiful Tiger, it sure is pretty! :party-smiley-004:

Hahaha, too late! Check the avitar Scot!


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