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ext2gtx 03-14-2012 05:23 PM

formula is keeping the riff raff out
 
:eekdrop:All this isn’t cheap of course, not many Formulas are. But where some may view that as a downside, we view is as restricted access to an exclusive club. Base price for the 310 FX5 with standard twin 8.2 Mag EC power plant with B3 outdrives is $264,690, hardly chump change but well worth the price considering the quality of the build. While the boat is nicely equipped as standard, what would the world be without options, and we have our own wish list that we’d equip our 310 FX5 with.

It starts with the Axius sterndrive docking system (add $20,120) that allows you to slide your FX5 into the slip with joystick ease. No boat this cool should be without the blue underwater LED lights (add $2,770). Since we’ll be showing off at every anchorage we can find, a windlass with chain and stainless anchor will be a must (add $4,850). But nights will be spent at the dock in front of the best waterfront restaurants we can find, and that means we’ll likely need the reverse cycle air conditioning (add $5,555) but we will hold off on the 5kw Kohler generator (would add $12,450) and opt for the shore power (add $3,770) that will also keep the batteries up to snuff. A dual voltage cockpit refrigerator is available (add $1,875) but we like the ability to load the standard cooler at home and drop it into its dedicated spot in the cockpit entertainment center.

Expensive Date 03-14-2012 06:24 PM

264k........What kind of drugs are they on and why are they not sharing.:lolhit:

ext2gtx 03-14-2012 06:25 PM

and thats base price

A.O. Razor 03-14-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by ext2gtx (Post 3641320)
and thats base price

You forgot that they now offer it with 8.2HO's. Just for fun, here is the price with Extreme FX Graphic w/Silver Diamond Metallic Hullside, Deck, and Full Cockpit and 8.2HOs, fully loaded except the ugly arch.

$382,105 MSRP:whistle:

Hm. Wonder it a set of Ilmor 725s will fit with ASD#7Ms. Should be good for 88-90 mph:D

RaggedEdge 03-14-2012 06:58 PM

I hear you can get a Bayliner for a whole lot less than 264 K. :lolhit:

ext2gtx 03-14-2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3641347)
I hear you can get a Bayliner for a whole lot less than 264 K. :lolhit:

bayliner and fountain about the same price.:lolhit:

pokerrunboats 03-14-2012 11:44 PM

I would not discuss Retail pricing ,

since most Formula dealers will get you a substantial discount

Now its time to buy, market prices were never better than now

pokerrunboats 03-14-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3641331)
You forgot that they now offer it with 8.2HO's. Just for fun, here is the price with Extreme FX Graphic w/Silver Diamond Metallic Hullside, Deck, and Full Cockpit and 8.2HOs, fully loaded except the ugly arch.

$382,105 MSRP:whistle:

Hm. Wonder it a set of Ilmor 725s will fit with ASD#7Ms. Should be good for 88-90 mph:D


I don`t think that the Ilmor 725 would fit but the new Ilmor 570 `s will do

here is a link to the 310 FX 5 Test Report from Powerboat Magazine with twin Merc 380 HP

http://formulaboats.de/pdf/Test-310-FX5-engl.pdf

tpenfield 03-15-2012 08:54 AM

Formula Pricing and the riff raff
 

Originally Posted by pokerrunboats (Post 3641595)
I would not discuss Retail pricing ,

since most Formula dealers will get you a substantial discount

Now its time to buy, market prices were never better than now

I don't know why they price their boats so high. I don't think any of them actually sell for MSRP. Big discounts at the dealers and the boat shows . . . it is kind of a smoke and mirrors game, IHMO. Since they went down this path, it is probably hard to reverse.

Mentalpause 03-15-2012 09:20 AM

You can buy the boat with Axius for just over 200K. Why discuss MSRP - all boat builders have been doing this forever. Why would Formula be different?

http://www.formulaboatsmo.com/boats_all.asp

Secret Formula 03-15-2012 01:07 PM

High new prices keep the value of the used one's high. I'm all for it.

RaggedEdge 03-15-2012 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by ext2gtx (Post 3641394)
bayliner and fountain about the same price.:lolhit:


Do you realize that for 264K you could get a whole truckload of Bayliners.

Bayliner and Formula, one big load tis 'bout the same as the other. :lolhit:

POWERPLAY J 03-15-2012 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3641674)
You can buy the boat with Axius for just over 200K. Why discuss MSRP - all boat builders have been doing this forever. Why would Formula be different?

http://www.formulaboatsmo.com/boats_all.asp

Yup what he said.

Expensive Date 03-15-2012 08:00 PM

Found this on the Formula website:

Cupholder delete - 113k

If you delete the 27 cupholders you get a lower price, also probably pick up 2 mph with the weight savings.

NASCAT 09-04-2013 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by pokerrunboats (Post 3641599)
I don`t think that the Ilmor 725 would fit but the new Ilmor 570 `s will do

here is a link to the 310 FX 5 Test Report from Powerboat Magazine with twin Merc 380 HP

http://formulaboats.de/pdf/Test-310-FX5-engl.pdf

Couldn't get the link to work but I realize its a yr+ old.
I've owned 2 Ilmor boats & have recently contacted them w/ the hopes they'll help me put a deal together w/ Formula on a 310FX. From what I understand Formula assigns Max HP limits to each of their boats so I'm thinking a pr 710's is out of the question but a pr 570's I'm hoping would be a consideration.

To Be Continued.........

Rattlesnake Jake 09-05-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by ext2gtx (Post 3641320)
and thats base price

Anyone that pays MSRP for a boat has their head where the sun doesn't shine.

phragle 09-05-2013 03:00 PM

Axius scares me on a performance boat. Cool idea for a cruiser though. Since there is no tie bar and the drives are independently controlled electronically, can you imagine something going wrong and your drives suddenly point different directions at speed??? Holy swimming lessons Batman!

NASCAT 09-05-2013 03:03 PM

Great point Phragle, never thought about that. I have no interest in an Axius equipped boat, a bow thruster at best would suffice in a 31' boat IMO, not to mention the cost savings.

38fountainecman 09-05-2013 03:50 PM

A while back someone's axius went haywire at 25 mph and nearly sunk the boat. He included a pic that had the drives at various rudder and trim positions that did look all wrong. Apparantly, there were issues with the early programing for the axius system. I would think they would have that solved by now though. I've owned various SR1's and I agree, must have a tie bar at a minimum in a performance boat. The 310 FX with that power would surely be fast enough to even warrant external hydraulic steering IMHO. Anyway, loved the formulas I have owned in the past.

Mentalpause 09-05-2013 06:09 PM

I've had Axius on a 2008 350SS since the 1.0 software release. And I knew when I bought it that it would have bugs, which it did. 3 software updates later and it is flawless, but some of using it is just common sense which is not always common with boaters. The Gen 2 Axius appears to be solid.

I agree that you wouldn't want it on a performance boat because it prohibits the tie bar. But who the heck buys a 310SS as a performance boat? None of the SS line is what I would consider a performance hull.

Knot 4 Me 09-06-2013 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3989231)
I've had Axius on a 2008 350SS since the 1.0 software release. And I knew when I bought it that it would have bugs, which it did. 3 software updates later and it is flawless, but some of using it is just common sense which is not always common with boaters. The Gen 2 Axius appears to be solid.

I agree that you wouldn't want it on a performance boat because it prohibits the tie bar. But who the heck buys a 310SS as a performance boat? None of the SS line is what I would consider a performance hull.

Who would have thought people would buy pontoons as performance boats? Yet now they are running 114 MPH in the Shootout!!

I think a 310SS with Ilmors would be cool. 9'6" beam with 22 degress deadrise and 9,800 lbs You'll just have to pick your spots when you run it balls out. Think of how many people we know with "offshore" boats that run them like runabouts on small lakes? Why not have a boat with nice ammenities and better passenger room that can make 70 MPH + blasts when you feel the need for speed?!

NASCAT 09-06-2013 08:49 AM

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QUOTE=Knot 4 Me;3989462]Who would have thought people would buy pontoons as performance boats? Yet now they are running 114 MPH in the Shootout!!

I think a 310SS with Ilmors would be cool. 9'6" beam with 22 degress deadrise and 9,800 lbs You'll just have to pick your spots when you run it balls out. Think of how many people we know with "offshore" boats that run them like runabouts on small lakes? Why not have a boat with nice ammenities and better passenger room that can make 70 MPH + blasts when you feel the need for speed?![/QUOTE]

You've read my mind exactly. In a conversation w/ Nick Buis from Statement Marine I think he put it best, the market has changed, people want to "BOAT". He defined "BOATING" as a relaxing, low stress experience on well appointed craft, w/ reliable turnkey power & some amenities. Within Statement Marine thats meant refocusing on the increased demand for upscale well appointed Ctr Consoles as opposed to 120mph Vee's. I don't want a Ctr Console but I would like to start "BOATING" per Nick's definition. I've only owned & still own a Go Fast boat. I've had my fun & my headaches, now I'd prefer to just BOAT & experience something different cruising up & down the ICW & do a few over nights etc.

I realize this is the FORMULA Forum & I myself am a newbie to this area on OSO but attached is a boat I've had my eye on for quite some time. I love this boat, the lines, the POWER & the fact it's a 2007 w/ 20hrs on it BUT it has a very basic V Berth cabin w/o any other amenities. It's 4' longer than the Formula 310 but it actually doesn't make the most of the space, seating or bells & whistles in comparison to the smaller Formula.

Long story short my quest to find the well rounded cuddy that has some eye appeal, includes overnight amenities & doesn't resemble a 45mph boxy Cabin Cruiser so I can start "BOATING" is whats brought me here & peaked my interest in the Formula 310 FX5.


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