Installing snap in carpet Help
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I have bought snap in carpet but need to install the male snaps in the deck! Im guessing the fuel tanks are below the deck and have concerns with drilling pilot hole and going to deep and hitting something! Is there a diagram for whats under the rear deck of a 2001 Fastech 292??? If anyone can help with whats below the floor, tank wires, ect it would be a huge help!
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Well, not a 292 or a newer model, so no use to you! Well, maybe it is. I had the center section on my 272 out to inspect. The center section that comes out sits on a 1" deep recessed lip. Below this is the foam that covers the tank by about an inch.
I tell you this as it may help you. The gas tank is at least 2" below the surface of the cockpit on my 272. I can also see my gas tank, well the end of it, from the engine compartment.
I also have snaps in my cockpit for a carpet.
I would think you would be fine. I would check it first though by figuring out where I need a snap. Drill a small pilot hole through the fiber glass untill the bit goes through. Then just press the bit down and see when it hits something solid, that is your working depth. of course, the glass is probably about 1/4" thick there, so a screw that is about 1/2" to 3/4" would bit into the glass and hold the snap, never coming close to the tank below.
Maybe someone with a 292 could pull a screw out of one of their snaps and let you know for sure.
Brian
I tell you this as it may help you. The gas tank is at least 2" below the surface of the cockpit on my 272. I can also see my gas tank, well the end of it, from the engine compartment.
I also have snaps in my cockpit for a carpet.
I would think you would be fine. I would check it first though by figuring out where I need a snap. Drill a small pilot hole through the fiber glass untill the bit goes through. Then just press the bit down and see when it hits something solid, that is your working depth. of course, the glass is probably about 1/4" thick there, so a screw that is about 1/2" to 3/4" would bit into the glass and hold the snap, never coming close to the tank below.
Maybe someone with a 292 could pull a screw out of one of their snaps and let you know for sure.
Brian
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The fuel tank should be in the rear under the rear seat. There is a small access panel that can be removed to service the fuel sender. It is a ways down there and i don't think you could ever mess up enough to hit it. I would use the snap heads and install them with 1/8 inch rivits like the snaps for the cockpit cover are installed on the outside of the boat. Just put some masking tape around the drill bit so it will not go any deeper than you want it to. Jeff Wurl
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From: Grand Lake (E-Dock Junior Varsity)
The floor should be PLENTY thick without even drilling through it. You only need a screw going into the floor, not through it. If you're using anything over 1/2" long screws, you're using way to big of a screw. They lay flush on the floor, they won't pull out or anything.. the floor SHOULD be an Inch thick at least.
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I assumed they used 3/4" for the decking plus resin and gelcoat. That puts it pretty close to an inch. I haven't had a Formula deck out yet, but plenty of other boats. THe skater floor was considerably thicker than that..
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Just my .02,
While Formula installs the male snaps using rivets, installing with this method would require you to know the thickness of the glass in the areas you want to install the snapps, so that you could get the correct length rivet.
If you are planning on leaving the carpet in most of the time, other than to clean, just use the standard screw in type, with a screw lenght of no more than a half inch. This way, regardless of where you place the snaps, you can be fairly sure that you won't have any problem with going through the glass and hitting anything, particularly considering you would only be installing a few snaps around the perimeter of the carpet anyway.
To answer your question in the orig post, unless Formula radically changed from the SR-1's, the fuel tank should run longitudinally in the center of the cockpit floor.
The original cockpit carpet from Formula in my 292 didn't have any snaps, and the backing held it in place quite well, with no walking or shifting, even after 15+ years. if you have purchased a decent carpet, I would think snaps in each corner and one at the mid point on each side would be more than enough to keep it in place.
Good luck with the install. Post pics when finished.
While Formula installs the male snaps using rivets, installing with this method would require you to know the thickness of the glass in the areas you want to install the snapps, so that you could get the correct length rivet.
If you are planning on leaving the carpet in most of the time, other than to clean, just use the standard screw in type, with a screw lenght of no more than a half inch. This way, regardless of where you place the snaps, you can be fairly sure that you won't have any problem with going through the glass and hitting anything, particularly considering you would only be installing a few snaps around the perimeter of the carpet anyway.
To answer your question in the orig post, unless Formula radically changed from the SR-1's, the fuel tank should run longitudinally in the center of the cockpit floor.
The original cockpit carpet from Formula in my 292 didn't have any snaps, and the backing held it in place quite well, with no walking or shifting, even after 15+ years. if you have purchased a decent carpet, I would think snaps in each corner and one at the mid point on each side would be more than enough to keep it in place.
Good luck with the install. Post pics when finished.



