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Old 12-29-2012 | 04:21 PM
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I had one and loved it but even buffed/cleaned it's not a $50K boat.
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Old 12-29-2012 | 05:19 PM
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What price tag should Pier57 have on it?
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Old 12-29-2012 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aquaforce
The pic claiming it is getting detailed shows rust sign of long weather exposure. My guess is Pier57 fixed it to flip it. Since Formula has a fiberglass linered cockpit it can hold up to a lot more weather than a wood floor boat. That doesn't mean it is impervious to weather damage but a good build helps a lot.

Maybe it is a deal but only a survey would tell.
It would be hard to get rid of all the mold and mildew. There was also a verticle crack on the starboard side visible from the engine compartment. It had water up to the crank pulleys in the engine compartment. The cuddy had water over the bottom step that was green.
The boat was documented with the USCG if anyone wants the hull ID #. The listed name is SUDDEN CHANGE. USCG documented vessel website has it listed.
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Old 12-29-2012 | 07:43 PM
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Must have left the drain plug in while outdoors. Its too bad boats like this fall into the wrong hands. The crack is prob from the water freezing in the engine compartment. Handy man special winter project.
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Old 12-30-2012 | 12:57 AM
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Must have left the drain plug in while outdoors. Its too bad boats like this fall into the wrong hands. The crack is prob from the water freezing in the engine compartment. Handy man special winter project.

The crack was from an impact with a telephone pole type pier. Way above the waterline. Clearly visable from the inside, probably fixed on the outside due to no signs of the incident.


The keel and bow of this boat was perfect, it was never beached. This is a 1 owner boat, and was taken care of. Something happened and it was neglected after the 02 season. The filters were dated 2002 with marker around Halloween of this year. The cockpit cover was destroyed from the elements.

I am saying, buyer beware.
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Old 12-30-2012 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoZ
The crack was from an impact with a telephone pole type pier. Way above the waterline. Clearly visable from the inside, probably fixed on the outside due to no signs of the incident.


The keel and bow of this boat was perfect, it was never beached. This is a 1 owner boat, and was taken care of. Something happened and it was neglected after the 02 season. The filters were dated 2002 with marker around Halloween of this year. The cockpit cover was destroyed from the elements.

I am saying, buyer beware.
Yes. Buyer beware sounds right if they see this thread.
Can't stress a survey enough. I probably wouldn't look further but I know what it is like when emotions run high.
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Old 01-14-2013 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pier57.com
I am not sure of the benefit of starting a thread like this but since it's out there we should probably respond, correct? First of all we have nothing to hide. Yes, this boat has sat for quite awhile, in fact, we think it has sat for up to 9 years. We bought this boat from another local dealer that was selling for a bank. We have NOT and do NOT plan to do any glass work. We have an open door policy and there is not a boat in this building that cannot be surveyed. In fact, we encourage all buyers whether here or somewhere else have a boat surveyed, it's the best $13.00 - $16.00 per ft a buyer can spend.

Not that we need to share but the reason there are not 50-60 pics of this boat up yet, we have not received all the legal paperwork from the bank to sell it therefore, there are other boats in front of it being detailed. We hope to have the correct USCG deletion paperwork from bank this week and then we finish detailing the boat the pics will be up for all to review.

Come on by and see boat for yourself, it's right in the showroom. Yes, it's dirty and will take a few days to clean up but it's not what it's being suggested here. There's no rust on this boat or cracks to our knowledge. When we bought boat, we were told by dealer that someone tried to tell them there was damage that did not exist to try and get a better deal and that another person went as far as to pop a freeze plug out to say it had a cracked block. All compression was excellent, motors run great and have low hours. The gas did smell so we had to pump out and put fresh gas in. As far as water in bilge, there was none when we purchased however there was some water from rain on cabin carpet.

The 15K was an opening bid.

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Do you know what it would take for someone to pop out a freeze plug?? that rite their is a stupid statment.and trying to pry one out is not happening too easy..you think we are all stupid fools????

Open door policy?? just like that poor guy that bought that fountain sport cruiser when you were the other guys name,,anyways that boat was all fixed up and was in a hurricane and it sank in his slip,not once but twice a few weeks apart....
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Old 01-18-2013 | 08:56 PM
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post up the pics then. and for 15k i wouldnt have surveyed either.
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Old 01-18-2013 | 09:26 PM
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Thumbs up Boat Came Out Awesome, Very Clean

Boat came out awesome, here's more than 87 pics taken today.

http://www.pier57.com/web/used/Formu...inois/5596820/

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Where's the pics? Is it still for sale or are you just letting everyone know for when it comes back up for sale?
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Old 01-19-2013 | 02:33 PM
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Wow! Is that the same boat described earlier in this post? Don't see any signs of neglect or weather abuse! Drives look brand new, interior looks flawless etc... If its the same boat as described prior I need my boat detailed by y'all!

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