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Old 04-15-2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by befu
Hah, just wait untill you start dropping engines in the boat, that really is nice.

That reminds me, I need to order gaskets and a new piston ring compressor.

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Yes sir, cant wait to get the engines back in
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Old 04-15-2013 | 04:49 PM
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Now...as some inspiration...your boat with twin SBC's and Alphas might weigh 5000 lbs. Even with pre Vortec heads and a reasonable flat hydraulic cam ( I like the 350 Horsepower/350 Cu In Z/28 Cam from '69~'70 available from Crane) you put a very easy 650 horsepower in the water with 700 # of TQ. Now do the math...even with the heavy Formula "Bones" you have a serious little rig there my friend. With the boat being light enough and with the Alphas splitting the load...if you put good synthetic lube in them...add some Lucas "Snake Oil" they will live. Look around for upper shafts that don't have the "O" ring seal cut into the shaft. That's where they snap when you "Get Air".

Oh...and if you want "Rumpity Rump" put that 350/350 cam in front of thru hulls and even with stock exhaust you will make an entrance at the "Party Cove".

It's fun to read your posts because you've picked one of my favorite boats and in my opinion one of the best boats Formula built.

Here's a video preview of what to expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkk6M...eature=related

Have fun, thanks for sharing and keep it coming.
Sounds like a plan, although when I build engines, may have to swap everything out to Bravo's Ill have to check out that cam, i like the Rumpity Rump

I saw that video when you posted it last time, that thing looks and sounds wicked!

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Old 04-16-2013 | 04:24 PM
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Did some cleanup work to your heads today. Hopefully tomorrow we will pull the valves and lap them, they actually look pretty decent for how rusted out the cylinder looked.

Did you ever do a compression test on your other motor?
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Old 04-16-2013 | 04:54 PM
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Did some cleanup work to your heads today. Hopefully tomorrow we will pull the valves and lap them, they actually look pretty decent for how rusted out the cylinder looked.

Did you ever do a compression test on your other motor?
SWEET! Cant thank you enough for doing this Brian, I REALLY appreciate it!

I thought they looked pretty good outside of that one cylinder. I have a feeling that engine AND this boat have not run in a VERY long time. With how far gone the wood was, how drenched the foam was, its a pretty good indication that it sat outside (probably poorly covered) for years.

Not yet but its on the list once I switch back to mechanics after all the carpentry. Im ready for that yesterday, unfortunaleyt there is still a good bit of wood and glasswork to be done

The original bulkheads and stringers are all PL'ed into the boat. Going to add a couple extra bulkeads where I think there should have been some, then cut 2x2's to incase everything vertically and horizontally up by where the deck will sit. Then drill out my drain holes and glass in PVC pipes to drain into the tank compartment, then tab everything in with 1708, then put the decks on, then foam. Then I will build my tank mounts, not foaming that back in. Then I can put my fiberglass decks back in over the new wood. Then move to the cabin and repeat. Then I can replace the center stringer from the aft bulkead to the center motor mounts, glass and foam in the battery shelfs. Then everything from the bildge forward will get painted. Then I can drop the engines back in. Thats a lot of "thens". haha

I'm tired from just typing that.... But it should go pretty quick once I get out of the center of the boat. Cabin is small and both it and the bildge can be done in a day.

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Old 04-17-2013 | 06:59 PM
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Got my extra bulkeads cut today, I left a little room for chop strand. I learned last time that sanding to make everything fit was no fun.



Then I cut my vertical 2x2's covered in resin, and wrapped the new bulkeads in CSM.



Should have these glued in tomorrow or friday, then I can cut my horizontal 2x2's and start prepping to tab everything in with 1708. Gonna need more resin.

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Old 05-10-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Billy, got the pics. Go ahead and throw that cam put, pretty bad shaped. We will go ahead and put one of the cams I have from my old 260's into the motor. When do you think you will be ready to drop it in?

Give us some updates! Gotta see what you have done.

Oh, message is here as your pms are full.

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Old 06-01-2013 | 11:37 AM
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Hey Brian,
Its still going to be a couple of weeks, I am thinking of making a trip up your way to grab the motor in the next couple weeks, think that would be ok? Shoot me a text/call when you have a minute.

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Old 06-01-2013 | 12:15 PM
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Ok,
Sorry its been awhile since I posted, I have been working on the boat but Mother Nature has not been kind to me. I bet it has rained 40 of the last 45 days which really screws with fiberglassing!

Anyway,
I think I left off right before I was tabbing in the stringers. I ran into a HUGE problem when I started on the port side. Apparently Resin is PL remover, because as I was tabbing in the Port Side the PL just started bubbling up and screwing up ALL of the 1708 I laid down. I didn't read this anywhere, but it really cost me time, and is still costing me time. So I moved to the Starboard side and starting removing any PL that was exposed and replacing it with PB. This took forever..........Here's a pic of what the resin did to the PL, needless to say I will never use it on another project again.







So after I got all of the PL removed from the STBD side, I started tabbing everything in with 2 layers of 1708.













Then I started drilling the 4 drains I needed, 1 at the back of each compartment.



Then I layed a small piece of glass on the inside of the hole and added PVC Pipe.



And put PB around both sides of every drain.





Then I capped the rest of my stringers and bulkheads with 1708.





Dryfitting the decks.





Then I PB'ed 2x2's covered in resin to the stringers to give me a little more support and something to screw the decks down to while the PB dried. I decided the vertical supports weren't needed.





Then I covered my decks in resin and covered the back sides of my decks with CSM and PB'ed to the 2x2's.











And that how she sits currently. Hopefully I can get the decks tabbed into the hull and stringers today as soon as its dry enough for me to give it a quick sand. That should kill the rest of my second 5 gallon bucket of resin, and I can start cleaning the rest of the PL of the Port side. Should go a little quicker now that the weather is hot enough to dry the resin in about an hour.

I'll keep you guys posted!

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Old 06-01-2013 | 06:47 PM
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You just made the decision with the PVC thru the limber holes and glassing them end that all but the best boat builders by pass. That decision was to glass them in. I had a 40' Sea Ray Express Cruiser that had silicone around the holes and before I sold it I glassed them in. Over time the silicone cracks and splits and you have the perfect entry point for water to wick into every piece of wood in the hull. Nice Job!!

Out of curiosity...with all that rot in the stringers...how does the transom look?

Obviously you know what you are doing and have the time and resources to do it.
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Old 06-01-2013 | 07:37 PM
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You just made the decision with the PVC thru the limber holes and glassing them end that all but the best boat builders by pass. That decision was to glass them in. I had a 40' Sea Ray Express Cruiser that had silicone around the holes and before I sold it I glassed them in. Over time the silicone cracks and splits and you have the perfect entry point for water to wick into every piece of wood in the hull. Nice Job!!

Out of curiosity...with all that rot in the stringers...how does the transom look?

Obviously you know what you are doing and have the time and resources to do it.
Ha! Thanks for the vote of confidence brother but I'm kind of making this up as I go along lol Compilation of other threads/websites.

Anyway, the transom actually looks ok for now. The stringers and battery trays are independent of the the transom in the way that they were built. That being said, I am going to replace it anyway this winter just for piece of mind. The boat is going to go to glassdave to get new gelcoat from the rub rails up in February or March, so I will pull everything out prior to that and do the transom real quick before she goes. After all this super structure work, the transom will be a breeze.

Got the decks tabbed into the stringers and hull tonight, STBD side is a wrap. I only used one layer of 1708, but I really didn't even think it needed that. It was rock solid before, now it should be like a tank. After I finish the other side and mock up my tank mounts, everything will get painted with Rustoleaum and Hardner before I glass the liner back in.







Thats all for now!

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