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bacon1 07-11-2013 04:16 PM

Oil recommendations for older 454?
 
We have an '89 223ss running a 454 non-mag and I'm wondering what oil weight we should be running. Temps here are from 70-90 degrees and we mostly idle through the river and cruise about 2800rpm but also the ocassionaly run some 5 minute WOT runs. The motor has 380 hours on it and runs great just want to start doing my own maintenance on it to save some cash. We only put about 20 hours on a year max, mostly sit at the sandbar and hang out.

masi242 07-11-2013 04:39 PM

I use Mobil 1 15-50 syn in my 454 with good results, good price at walmar. With only 380 hours you have a long way to go on that engine.

bacon1 07-11-2013 06:07 PM

Great thank you very much!!! Here she is!
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6484/ch2p.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/3281/img1106c.jpg

masi242 07-11-2013 06:29 PM

That great looking 223 she will be around for a while.

beaver 3 07-11-2013 07:09 PM

I would run something with zinc for the cam and lifters. Today's engine dont need it so the oils don't come with it.

sprink58 07-12-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by beaver 3 (Post 3957410)
I would run something with zinc for the cam and lifters. Today's engine dont need it so the oils don't come with it.

Use the 15-50 Mobile 1 but swap a quart for bottle of Lucas oil enhancer. It has friction reducing additives in it including zinc and molybdenum for that flat tappet cam.

Nice looking rig BTW...bet its a bullet!!

Rattlesnake Jake 07-12-2013 08:47 AM

I use Valvoline VR1 racing 20-50 for many years in my 336.

vintage chromoly 07-12-2013 08:50 AM

Brad penn.

Unlimited jd 07-12-2013 10:15 AM

X2 on the penn or joe Gibbs race oil. Mobil 1 has very little zinc, and if run in that engine without a zinc phosphor additive you'll have a flat cam and mushroomed lifters very soon

Funnone 07-12-2013 05:05 PM

I'm running 15/40 Royal Purple

aquaforce 07-13-2013 11:50 AM

I know some of the big name oil people don't help much with the ZDDP issue because of govt legislation. Some still have healthy amounts for flat tappet cams but I haven't followed that much to know who's oil is good. Since I bought a boat with tappet cams I need to learn about this until I change out the cams for rollers.

Is AmsOil one to have a good amount of the friction modifiers??? The PO was using that in this 357 and it has over 100hrs running fine.
My thoughts are to run conventional oil with the GM additive to satisfy the ZDDP needs. Any knowledge about this??

k9bitten 07-17-2013 10:48 PM

My first post here. I have 88 223 ss w/same engine. Myself and other friends with older 454's swear by Rotella T Triple Protection 15-40.

Chart 07-17-2013 11:29 PM

The engine builder who rebuilt my 85 454's instructed me to use straight 40 weight Valvoline racing oil. That was several years ago, but I still use it in those 454s.

DWeiss67 07-18-2013 06:28 AM

Deff add zinc...and really any mineral oil will do...the 454 will run for years as long as its maintained properly... don't wastes your money on synthetic oil that engine wasn't designed for that straight mineral oil is what it thirst...overhead cams...then yeah synthetic is a must...oh yeah change it every 25 hours...

DWeiss67 07-18-2013 06:32 AM

Valvoline racing oil has zinc all ready in it...notice the disclaimer " not for on road use" or something to that effect...it basically means it works to good and has all the lubricants in it the govt hates...its just cheaper to add Lucas oil additive and works just as good..

Back4More 07-18-2013 09:49 PM

Kendall 20w50


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