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Sydwayz 08-18-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Tedorama (Post 4173518)
What's the procedure to move the spacer to the front to allow more trim in. I fairly mechanically inclined, so a photo, detailed explanation, or a link on doing this procedure would be very much appreciated

It's really easy. You remove the long bolt that holds the back of the drive trim cylinders at the back of the drive. The "spacer" looks like a white celery stick. The hole in the drive is oblong, front to back. Based on the above post, the celery stick should be at the FRONT of the hole, and the bolt at the rear. If you look closely at the back of the drive, you should be able to tell where it is without removing anything.

Michael S 08-18-2014 01:04 PM

Like so?

http://www.boatingwithtr.com/members...BravoThree.gif

Or

http://www.boatingwithtr.com/members...oOneAndTwo.gif

Sydwayz 08-18-2014 01:28 PM

EXACTLY like that.

Tedorama 08-18-2014 02:42 PM

Awesome
Thanks Guys!

Sydwayz 08-18-2014 03:45 PM

WOW, what happened to all of those hugely informative posts?

looseconnection 08-18-2014 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4173669)
WOW, what happened to all of those hugely informative posts?

Guess he didnt want to go down like darr.

stimleck 08-18-2014 05:03 PM

Its pretty simple actually, I realized that my initial comment was inappropriate for a thread that was seeking advice. The remaining back and forth stemmed from that comment so out of respect for a great board I deleted them to end the nonsense.
I would be happy to have the debate on a dedicated thread if any formula owners want to educate me on how a 60 mph boat that needs to be stroked to plane is acceptable.

Sydwayz 08-18-2014 08:40 PM

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^^ Aaaaaaand we're back.

This is THE ABSOLUTE HARDEST boat to get on plane that I have ever experienced. Junk right?
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jbraun2828 08-18-2014 08:49 PM

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My boat takes damn near a half mile to get up when it's rough out

4mulafastech 08-18-2014 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4173713)
I would be happy to have the debate on a dedicated thread if any formula owners want to educate me on how a 60 mph boat that needs to be stroked to plane is acceptable.

Stimleck,
Let me try and clarify a few things here as it is quite apparent you have never ridden in a 292 and have formed an extremely negative opinion based on something you read. The op has a new to him 292 overpropped for the elevation with possibly other things going on with the setup, driving style or engine.

A correctly propped 292 planes just fine! It is a 8'3" beam, 24 degree dead rise hull with two steps. Just like any similar offshore style hull it planes with fairly high bow rise and takes a few seconds. No big deal. Once on plane you enjoy all the rough water handling (24 degree) and efficiency (twin steps) this type of hull provides.

My 292 runs 70-72 mph in rough water that no bass boat could even think of running past 35 mph. See, that's the difference. Plus we can overnight in it. It really is a great boat and a blast in rough water. I would love to give you a ride in some sloppy water getting good air. I'm SURE you would have a smile on your face and realize your comments are incorrect. Peace!

looseconnection 08-18-2014 09:33 PM

This stemlick guy just cant handle the fact that we are finally right about something. I mean he has really stomped us in the knowledge dept of what 300-320 post and i am like woohoo checkmate biotch.

Sydwayz 08-18-2014 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by looseconnection (Post 4173922)
This stemlick guy just cant handle the fact that we are finally right about something. I mean he has really stomped us in the knowledge dept of what 300-320 post and i am like woohoo checkmate biotch.

I've met a few Fern-Lickers in my day; they usually hang out with the Tree Huggers. I've never met a Stem-Licker though. :D

stimleck 08-19-2014 08:35 AM

beautiful boat, I bet it does more than 60

Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4173881)
^^ Aaaaaaand we're back.

This is THE ABSOLUTE HARDEST boat to get on plane that I have ever experienced. Junk right?
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stimleck 08-19-2014 08:36 AM

Brian nice behavior for a "moderator" slinging personal insults and perpetuating nonsense. I guess you to are a keyboard cowboy living your life on the internet? Stimleck happens to be my name

Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4173950)
I've met a few Fern-Lickers in my day; they usually hang out with the Tree Huggers. I've never met a Stem-Licker though. :D


stimleck 08-19-2014 08:41 AM

I was clear that my comments were not appropriate so I deleted them.
I love that the 3 of you are having so much fun with this and perpetuating it like little girls.
Do you meet in teenage girl chat rooms and plan your internet attacks on people you don't agree with on message boards?
Do you measure your internet status on the number of posts you have made?
You and loose connection I can understand because you are clearly wanna be's but Brian I'm surprised that a moderator and normally very helpful knowledgeable boat man would bother with t his nonsense.
I love how the internet makes you all a couple of inches taller.
Your high school bullying days are way behind you let it go, no need to get back at the guys that humiliated you by hiding behind a keyboard and attacking the first person that disagrees with you with less than 800 posts.

Originally Posted by looseconnection (Post 4173922)
This stemlick guy just cant handle the fact that we are finally right about something. I mean he has really stomped us in the knowledge dept of what 300-320 post and i am like woohoo checkmate biotch.


stimleck 08-19-2014 08:42 AM

beautiful boat, must really handle the big water at high speed also.


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4173893)
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My boat takes damn near a half mile to get up when it's rough out


stimleck 08-19-2014 09:01 AM

4mulafastech thanks for the detailed response. Clearly I didn't take the time to read the explanations regarding elevation and prop size before I commented. Add those to factors to any boat and you will have planing problems, makes total sense. I guess I got caught up in the many comments that ignored these two factors and simply tried to justify poor planing performance.
It reminded me of Lamborghini and Ferrari owners from the 80's and 90's that justified offset pedals, no outward vision, breakdowns and 5000 mile tune ups because it was "exotic" or had great performance. Porsche and the Acura NSX showed them that its not required. Not sure why they bothered justifying poor planing performance as acceptable when as you mention when set up properly it planes fine. I guess this also flies in the face of the many posters here that claim anything under 35 feet is not a true offshore boat. I ride in a new Formula 29 br every weekend and it planes in seconds with 10 people and handles most of lake Ontario easily with a top speed of 58 mph so I was very surprised to hear that planing issues were being defended. I have ridden on many Formulas (not a 29 fastech) and always loved their smooth solid ride and frankly never experienced any abnormal planing challenges so this surprised me.You don't need to be an Offshore Guru" to understand this common sense rationale.
By the way I also owned a 38 scarab with Chief engines that struggled to plan but once set up by Tommy Hofstetter planed very easily. We won a Lake Ontario poker run with him driving and used the boat like an all rounder for many years

Anyways thanks for taking the time to explain

Originally Posted by 4mulafastech (Post 4173900)
Stimleck,
Let me try and clarify a few things here as it is quite apparent you have never ridden in a 292 and have formed an extremely negative opinion based on something you read. The op has a new to him 292 overpropped for the elevation with possibly other things going on with the setup, driving style or engine.

A correctly propped 292 planes just fine! It is a 8'3" beam, 24 degree dead rise hull with two steps. Just like any similar offshore style hull it planes with fairly high bow rise and takes a few seconds. No big deal. Once on plane you enjoy all the rough water handling (24 degree) and efficiency (twin steps) this type of hull provides.

My 292 runs 70-72 mph in rough water that no bass boat could even think of running past 35 mph. See, that's the difference. Plus we can overnight in it. It really is a great boat and a blast in rough water. I would love to give you a ride in some sloppy water getting good air. I'm SURE you would have a smile on your face and realize your comments are incorrect. Peace!


looseconnection 08-19-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4174078)
beautiful boat, I bet it does more than 60

Where does "more than 60" come from? Why are you hung up on 60. A well set up 292 fastech does 70 with 350 300 hp mpi's with a moderate load. and can do so in a pretty good chop.

Your just irritated you are wrong and keep feeding us chit to toss back at cha. If internet jabs get you this contorted you need to chill. All fun and games.

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Sydwayz 08-19-2014 09:44 AM

Steve (Timleck),
Thanks for your email. I'll just reply here.

OSO is equal parts entertainment and informative/educational IMHO. "We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time." This is just in the course of normal ops around here, and not meant to be personal. Take a look at the Tony Stewart thread for some more good reading.

The only issue herein, is this thread is just not related to the OP/Tedorama's question(s). 3 and a 1/2 years from now, he'll be selling that boat, or someone else will be researching 292s, and they will have to answer to your original and followed up qualms about the performance of the boat. That's not right, not fair, and not just. The posts that followed were just a few members' ideas to relax the thread a bit; mine included.

Sydwayz/Brian

racinfast002 08-19-2014 10:06 AM

I was staying out of this thread until you tried comparing a ferrari or lambo to a freaking acura nsx LMFAO

pasquesi 08-19-2014 10:27 AM

Timleck,

You are clearly way out of your element. To compare a Ferrari to an Acura is the kind of statement that had me spraying my monitor with coffee as I laughed so hard.

So, Tommy drove YOUR boat, in a poker run, that you "won"? How exactly did you "win"?

I'd love to see some pictures of you and Tommy on the 38 Scarab...

stimleck 08-19-2014 12:40 PM

agreed lets agree to let it die
feel free to delete


Originally Posted by racinfast002 (Post 4174157)
I was staying out of this thread until you tried comparing a ferrari or lambo to a freaking acura nsx LMFAO


laketravis 08-19-2014 01:59 PM

Wow-
I never thought I would see so much commenting on negativity of stupidity having no originality on the perplexity of the autrocity that you all have emphatically and diabolically confused me with!
I have a headache!
.....but I also have a 292 with Stock 28p wheels, scrapped the silencer tips for straight tips (direct from Corsa), and scrapped the Bennets for 280-S K-Planes......a challenge to install (plumbing wise) but WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT!
It planes in record time, stays on plane at 25-28MPH and runs 72 WOT which is plenty for that boat, and plenty for my wife and her friends....as they don't want to get to the next waterfront bar any faster.....If you do those 2 things and fill it up with Gas, you will have a Great Worry-Free Happy, Rock Solid, Fast, Fun, and Plentiful Day out on the Water.
Why mess with a good thing?, just a slight improvement in her attitude (ie: trim and sound) and she is perfect!
All Good Here!

pasquesi 08-19-2014 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4174257)
agreed lets agree to let it die
feel free to delete

How about posting a picture of you and Tommy from Chief in your Scarab. You must have taken a picture to remember that day...

stimleck 08-19-2014 03:14 PM

Didnt you just read lake travis's post?

Originally Posted by pasquesi (Post 4174342)
How about posting a picture of you and Tommy from Chief in your Scarab. You must have taken a picture to remember that day...


pasquesi 08-20-2014 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4174346)
Didnt you just read lake travis's post?

Pure BS, as I thought.

Tedorama 08-21-2014 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4173525)
It's really easy. You remove the long bolt that holds the back of the drive trim cylinders at the back of the drive. The "spacer" looks like a white celery stick. The hole in the drive is oblong, front to back. Based on the above post, the celery stick should be at the FRONT of the hole, and the bolt at the rear. If you look closely at the back of the drive, you should be able to tell where it is without removing anything.

Checked my trim in position and it was already moved forward, Got some 24P props coming. found out circuit breaker for tabs was popped from playing around too much. Going to Lake Powell on Labor day weekend to test out everything.
Thanks again for all the input and insight!
Best to All,
Tedorama

pasquesi 08-21-2014 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Tedorama (Post 4175308)
Checked my trim in position and it was already moved forward, Got some 24P props coming. found out circuit breaker for tabs was popped from playing around too much. Going to Lake Powell on Labor day weekend to test out everything.
Thanks again for all the input and insight!
Best to All,
Tedorama

Good luck!

Made It Rain 08-21-2014 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Tedorama (Post 4175308)
Checked my trim in position and it was already moved forward, Got some 24P props coming. found out circuit breaker for tabs was popped from playing around too much. Going to Lake Powell on Labor day weekend to test out everything.
Thanks again for all the input and insight!
Best to All,
Tedorama

Maybe we will see you at Powell.

4mulafastech 08-21-2014 12:42 PM

Thanks for the update and good luck! It will be interesting to see what rpm you get with the 24P at wot and drives trimmed for top speed.

pokerrunboats 08-25-2014 05:29 PM

There is a 292 Fastech in the Netherlands ,
That boat has twin 377 mags with Bravo 3 drives
It plans easy with even ten people onboard and top speed is 66 MPH all day


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