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Franks292 11-11-2020 12:51 AM

292 Fastech refurbishment thread
 
Hope everyone is doing well in these weird times we're living in. Figured I would give everyone an update on my 02 Formula 292 Fastech "HEAD RUSH". So little back story...
I bought this boat in October 2017, it was mint condition and bone stock (no cosmetic or performance upgrades). I ran it for a full season before doing any major work. Halfway through the 2018 season doing oil changes, I noticed my exhaust was leaking at the end of the hose at the transom. Every single clamp was loose. I tightened them up and kept boating.

Fast forward to 2019, steering is totally shot and decided to upgrade to IMCO full hydraulic. While drilling the holes, I found my transom was indeed compromised, most likely from the leaking exhaust hoses. The wood was wet near the exhaust tips and damp towards the middle of the transom.

Present Day... ive been in contact with Glass Dave and he will be replacing my transom (extremely grateful he was able to fit me in his schedule, you're the man Dave!). I've been De-Rigging the entire back of the boat for the last few weeks. Just got the engines out sunday.

Where I'm going from here... Once the transom has been replaced, I plan on doing a ton of preventative maintenance and upgrades since the bilge will be cleared out (minus stuff not near the transom).
These items will include:
New HP transom assemblies
280 K-planes/pumps
Indicator cables and senders for drives/k-planes
New Shadow caster SCM6 and SCM 4 underwater lights
New exhaust tails/tips
New port side engine coupler (stbd side done in 2019)
New Hardin sea pumps
New or rebuilt starters (good rebuilder down the street)
New starter selenoids
New Spark plugs, caps, rotors and wires for both engines
New bilge pumps and float switches
New Fuel lines and in-line filters
Clean up bilge/engine wiring


These are items I will for sure be doing. But I would like to hear any suggestions anyone may have! What else should I look at or replace since everything will be apart? Here's some pictures of my season and beginning this refurb. Thanks for tuning in!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3138a31182.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d546399a87.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...35bd03454.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a41833d5a5.jpg

SabrToothSqrl 11-11-2020 06:39 AM

Man that's a lotta work. Good stuff.

btr_chicago 11-11-2020 09:31 PM

Good luck ! Let me know if you need a hand with anything. I have a long list myself on my 292.

Franks292 11-11-2020 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by btr_chicago (Post 4765371)
Good luck ! Let me know if you need a hand with anything. I have a long list myself on my 292.

I used your advice tonight getting my exhaust tips off, worked great! Got to see the carnage inside the holes from the water leaks... its bad. Wood is all dark brown and black where the water breached.

98outlawse 11-16-2020 12:48 PM

How is glassdave getting around the liner in the bilge? is he removing it or cutting it back? going through the same problem you are.

Franks292 11-16-2020 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by 98outlawse (Post 4765825)
How is glassdave getting around the liner in the bilge? is he removing it or cutting it back? going through the same problem you are.

Maybe he will chime in at some point. Hes a very friendly guy so if you messaged him and asked he would be able to tell you.. But I remember him saying its like performing surgery replacing the transom on a Fastech.

98outlawse 11-16-2020 08:37 PM

Did you have nabbers look at it? We are close to him also

Franks292 11-16-2020 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by 98outlawse (Post 4765876)
Did you have nabbers look at it? We are close to him also

I also talked to him but he claimed there is wood in the grid system also and he kinda had an attitude about it when I talked to him. The grid system is all fiberglass. Not knocking nabbers or anything but im going with my gut on this one.. Dave has replaced a number of transoms in Fastechs. What year and model is yours? Just curious.

98outlawse 11-17-2020 03:14 PM

2006 292 also, we haven’t taken it there just curious. Did he throw any numbers at you for cost? No idea what range this is in price wise. Everything is out and off the transom.

Franks292 11-17-2020 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by 98outlawse (Post 4765946)
2006 292 also, we haven’t taken it there just curious. Did he throw any numbers at you for cost? No idea what range this is in price wise. Everything is out and off the transom.

I still have some de-rigging to do. I can't remember exactly what Dave quoted me, but Nabbers refused to give me a quote until he looked at it 🙄

Franks292 11-17-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by 98outlawse (Post 4765946)
2006 292 also, we haven’t taken it there just curious. Did he throw any numbers at you for cost? No idea what range this is in price wise. Everything is out and off the transom.

How did your transom get wet? Just curious.

98outlawse 11-17-2020 06:15 PM

One of the bolts on the transom assembly was leaking. It had a small bit of rot around that bolt. Drilled some holes around the area and got dark wood maybe 6 to 8 inches out. Not rotted just damp.

Franks292 11-17-2020 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by 98outlawse (Post 4765958)
One of the bolts on the transom assembly was leaking. It had a small bit of rot around that bolt. Drilled some holes around the area and got dark wood maybe 6 to 8 inches out. Not rotted just damp.

damn that sucks 😔 i feel your pain.

Helmwurst 11-18-2020 07:45 AM

Killer Cat making sure the mice stay away from the goods !!

Eddienel 11-18-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4765987)
Killer Cat making sure the mice stay away from the goods !!

I dont know what the deal is with members posting pictures of their cats and boats or engines. ICDEDPPL did on another thread. Hell I hate cats but now Im thinking I need one. All the cool guys have them.

SabrToothSqrl 11-19-2020 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4766046)
I dont know what the deal is with members posting pictures of their cats and boats or engines. ICDEDPPL did on another thread. Hell I hate cats but now Im thinking I need one. All the cool guys have them.

All the cool kids have outboards and don't have giant holes in the transom to deal with. My next boat gets outboards. I'm tired of killing myself in the bilge with my 292.

Franks292 11-19-2020 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4766046)
I dont know what the deal is with members posting pictures of their cats and boats or engines. ICDEDPPL did on another thread. Hell I hate cats but now Im thinking I need one. All the cool guys have them.

that cat belongs to the building owner where I pulled the engines. Its a barn cat whos job is to go after mice and rodents.

Eddienel 11-19-2020 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Franks292 (Post 4766147)
that cat belongs to the building owner where I pulled the engines. Its a barn cat whos job is to go after mice and rodents.

No worries. Was totally being a smart azz... On a side note Im super excited about your build. I love the Formula boats.

Franks292 11-20-2020 11:00 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d0f1cd5731.jpg
Progress so far.

Eddienel 11-21-2020 06:54 AM

Just curious about how many man hours you got into it so far?

Franks292 11-22-2020 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4766292)
Just curious about how many man hours you got into it so far?

Hard to say, but maybe 10-12 hours total at this point since I turned the first bolt. Im taking my time.

Franks292 11-22-2020 11:14 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6318a07dea.jpg
More progress in the bilge...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c238973c5f.jpg

Eddienel 11-22-2020 11:27 AM

I see a road trip in your near future. When is Glass Dave going to be able to get to you?

IGetWet 11-22-2020 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Franks292 (Post 4766389)
Hard to say, but maybe 10-12 hours total at this point since I turned the first bolt. Im taking my time.

10-12 isn’t bad if you ask me for a DIYer. Lots to keep track of and organize so that putting it back together goes good. Thanks for sharing, keep it up

Franks292 11-22-2020 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4766392)
I see a road trip in your near future. When is Glass Dave going to be able to get to you?

in the next 2 weeks. Only 4 hour drive from where I'm at.

Franks292 11-22-2020 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4766396)
10-12 isn’t bad if you ask me for a DIYer. Lots to keep track of and organize so that putting it back together goes good. Thanks for sharing, keep it up

I'm a mechanic by trade so that helps. Also the help from a friend who is very familiar with pulling engines and de-rigging, especially in Formulas. I took pictures and labeled everything that wasnt self explanatory. Will be taking my sweet time re-rigging everything once I get the boat back from Dave and making some modifications for the HP transom trim sending cables and k plane cables. Should have it ready to go to Dave in the next few days.

Franks292 11-22-2020 11:56 PM

Also, to anyone that has GIL offshore engine mounts, MAKE SURE THEYRE TIGHT!!! I found my stbd side grid mounts loose when taking it out and the port side wasn't much better. The thru bolts on the grid were hand tight at best, stbd side was definitely moving around. I inspected the thru holes in the grid and it didn't look like any damage occurred but its definitely a scary finding.

Anthony Ceccato 11-23-2020 01:39 AM

Aa

Franks292 11-29-2020 06:02 PM

Bilge got cleaned out and boat was dropped off at Glass Dave's shop today. Wonder if there will be any issues with the grid liner. Now to organize all my parts in the garage.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...49fde7df12.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b1ccbc579a.jpg

Eddienel 11-29-2020 06:37 PM

Did Dave give you an ETA when he would be finished?

Franks292 11-29-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4767310)
Did Dave give you an ETA when he would be finished?

2-3 weeks as long as there's no grid issues

badmonkey 11-30-2020 07:35 AM

Dave did the work on our Fastech. Not a single person on this planet that does better work and has more attention to detail. You’ve got the best on the job. Can’t wait to see it when finished.

Chris

Franks292 11-30-2020 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by badmonkey (Post 4767345)
Dave did the work on our Fastech. Not a single person on this planet that does better work and has more attention to detail. You’ve got the best on the job. Can’t wait to see it when finished.

Chris

I saw the thread on the repairs done to your old 353. He Definitely went the extra mile. Looking forward to seeing mine nice n fresh and probably better than factory!

Eddienel 11-30-2020 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by badmonkey (Post 4767345)
Dave did the work on our Fastech. Not a single person on this planet that does better work and has more attention to detail. You’ve got the best on the job. Can’t wait to see it when finished.

Chris

Post the link. Id love to see it.

badmonkey 11-30-2020 07:32 PM

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...r-chillin.html

Franks292 11-30-2020 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by badmonkey (Post 4767444)

This thread is how I know I'm in good hands with Galss Dave.

Helmwurst 11-30-2020 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4766046)
I dont know what the deal is with members posting pictures of their cats and boats or engines. ICDEDPPL did on another thread. Hell I hate cats but now Im thinking I need one. All the cool guys have them.

Hell, I could have given you a good one. Peter Piper. Sat on my lap every night , right next to Sugar Bear the dog. He was faster than anything I ever tried to catch. He was a good boy, but he was really stressing out my dog. He is in a good home with little kids.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8af3a047c6.jpg

Helmwurst 11-30-2020 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Franks292 (Post 4766390)

What caused those dark stains in the bilge? Oily water sloshing around ?

Franks292 11-30-2020 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4767452)
What caused those dark stains in the bilge? Oily water sloshing around ?

Seems that way, both of my trim pumps are seeping and my port side engine is definitely leaking.

HerdOfTurtles 12-02-2020 02:04 PM

I'm a couple months of ownership into my 292 so I'm watching this thread like a hawk.

Adding full hydraulic steering is definitely on my hot list of upgrades - past 55 mph in any kind of waves and it gets kinda dangerous, small waves it's ok. If I find wet, but not rotten wood in the transom when it's time to install I think I'll try to dry out the transom and fix the leak first before totally redoing it. Drill a bunch of holes on the inside of the transom and stuff moisture wicks into the holes, then run a dehumidifier in the bilge for a month. Seal the holes with penetrating epoxy etc after.

I know one thing: if I spend the amount of time working on the boat you are spending I'll be looking at divorce!


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