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RedDog382 03-09-2005 10:47 AM

Trim switch buttons
 
I am working to secure a source for replacement buttons on the trim tab switches. Mine are badly yellowed from sun exposure in Arizona where my 382 was previously owned. New switch assemblies retail over $40.00 each from Formula. Buttons are available directly from Honeywell for about $6.50 each in white, black, red, blue, green, and yellow.

I have noticed discoloration of several others in pics here and thought I would check if anyone else is interested in ordering replacements.

There was a change in the switches sometime after '99 and the replacement buttons are different on the new style. I will try to find when the change was made.

RD

t500hps 03-09-2005 11:48 AM

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I may be interested because I have the same problem. The 3 sets (6 individual) switches for tab, trim, etc on my new ride (98 312) are yellowed as well as the steering wheel. If you can get these for $6.50 each in white I'm all in. At $40.00 each I'll keep my eyes out across the water. Let me know what you find out.....Thanks for thinking of the fellow Formula owners!

PhantomChaos 03-09-2005 12:59 PM

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RdDog

I'll do that......white is what I need. I was going to replace them and look for a place to get them, but if you have that already figured out, let me know! I'm a 2001.

Email me!

[email protected]

RedDog382 03-09-2005 01:24 PM

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Check out Honeywell website "switches and controls" section. TP series if I remember correctly. I spoke with them today to get prices. I need to go back in and ID nearest retailer in my area. My switches are discontiuned with a new replacement. But it appears the buttons are still available and just need to pop old ones off, snap new ones on.

PhantomChaos 03-09-2005 01:35 PM

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Are you saying the "caps" snap on/off from the switch body?

PhantomChaos 03-09-2005 01:44 PM

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Hmmmmmmmmmm........getting a lot of dead link for Honeywell switches...

t500hps 03-09-2005 09:47 PM

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I finally found the page I believe you were refering to. Now I just need to figure out which ones are the replacement switches.
Thanks.
Russ C.

http://catalog.sensing.honeywell.com...,143462,143464

RedDog382 03-10-2005 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
I finally found the page I believe you were refering to. Now I just need to figure out which ones are the replacement switches.
Thanks.
Russ C.

http://catalog.sensing.honeywell.com...,143462,143464

Yes ,this is the site link. Click on "Interactive Catalogue Home", then "Toggle and Rocker Switches", then "TP Series". You will find switch and button diagrams and part numbers. Switch model number is located on the side of the switch ... you may need to remove it from the panel to read. Model off my '99 is 2TP38-7 (discontinued). I have six new assemblies at home I ordered from Formula I would like to return ... I will check part number and post.

RedDog382 03-10-2005 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Are you saying the "caps" snap on/off from the switch body?

Nort,

Yes. If your switch is model 2TP38-7, the "cap" or button is just pressed on and held in place by two dimples on each side of the rocker. You could probably just put a spring hook under the button and pop it off without even having to pull the panel up.

The new design looks like its a little more complicated (progress, right?). I do not yet know when the change was made, but I'm looking into it.

RedDog382 03-10-2005 04:59 AM

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Dominant boat color and bezels are red. I'm thinking of going with the red buttons so they don't turn yellow again. What do you guys think?

t500hps 03-10-2005 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382
Dominant boat color and bezels are red. I'm thinking of going with the red buttons so they don't turn yellow again. What do you guys think?

I'm going white....what are the chances the red will match up to the red bezels????

PhantomChaos 03-10-2005 08:30 PM

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Well....if we can get the caps, they can't be that much! I'm thinking a set of white, a set of blue and a set of red! Here's pics of mine today.

LK 525sc382 03-10-2005 09:45 PM

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Hey man, Just think what a GOOD quality paint can do for the rocker, and you can match any color! DUH!!!!!

PhantomChaos 03-10-2005 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn E Keller
Hey man, Just think what a GOOD quality paint can do for the rocker, and you can match any color! DUH!!!!!

Yeah......but buttons (controls) get a lot of wear in a given area....and you'll wear right through the paint. Plus they are plastic. Not like you can paint them with really tough stuff....they'll melt! (disolve)

Might try it anyway.

t500hps 03-11-2005 07:17 AM

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I'm going to go pull part numbers this weekend.......
Any suggestions for a new wheel too?

RedDog382 03-13-2005 03:44 PM

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Nort,

You have the new switches. They are not made by Honeywell. They were supplied by Bennett. It looks to me that the button (which is also the toggle on the new style) can be replaced if you can find the source. I would try contacting Bennett. I will try to see what I can find for you, but the buttons I'm looking at will not work for you. I have 6 new switch assemblies if you want them, but they are $36 each. I will be returning them unless you want them.

RedDog382 03-13-2005 04:05 PM

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t500hps,

I can order the white switches for you and send them on if you want to PM your address or call (H) 419-882-1680 or (C) 419-450-0896. I don't know how close the red will match, but I'll take a shot for $36 (and order a extra set in white).

Chris

RedDog382 03-13-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
Any suggestions for a new wheel too?

I had to put a new center cap on mine, but the wheel itself still looks good. I would check out the Livorsi catalogue and call Fred (Too Old) at Trick Marine ... he will fix you up!

t500hps 03-14-2005 08:28 AM

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Thanks RedDog.....I just saw your part numbers are the same as mine. Let me know when they are in.
Russ C.

ApachePete 03-14-2005 09:55 AM

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The rockers in my '99 382 are yellow, too. Would love to find replacements

All of my speaker grills have also turned yellow. Ugly..

PhantomChaos 03-14-2005 08:17 PM

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WOW.....$36 a switch! I'll try to find caps I guess. :)

t500hps 03-14-2005 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
WOW.....$36 a switch! I'll try to find caps I guess. :)

Hello...RedDog already found them for us at Honeywell. (aprox. $6.50 ea.) He was going to order a set for me and himself today/tomorrow.

PhantomChaos 03-14-2005 09:42 PM

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T500

Did I mis-read that? He said I don't have Honeywell switches.....and you guys have something different.

CAFormula1 03-14-2005 10:30 PM

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Nort, If you order... get some extras?? keep us posted on your dash panel replacment project.

KL

RedDog382 03-15-2005 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete
The rockers in my '99 382 are yellow, too. Would love to find replacements

All of my speaker grills have also turned yellow. Ugly..

Papache or ApachePete(?),

I have an order in for buttons from Honeywell. I have one set coming in white for t500hps, one set in red for me, and an extra set in white in case the red doesn't go with my bezel color. If these are correct, I can send the second set of white on to you, or give you the number to purchase direct from Honeywell. They are $6.50 each plus tax and shipping. Stay tuned ... I should recieve them later this week and will advise. :D

I replaced my speaker grills from Formula. At some point I will be upgrading the sound system and speaker grills with something other than the Kenwood/white plastic.

t500hps 03-15-2005 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
T500

Did I mis-read that? He said I don't have Honeywell switches.....and you guys have something different.

maybe....one of us did. Try the link I posted in #7 and see if you can find your switches. I'm willing to bet they made yours too and that's it's just a different part number.
Godd Luck

RedDog382 03-15-2005 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
maybe....one of us did. Try the link I posted in #7 and see if you can find your switches. I'm willing to bet they made yours too and that's it's just a different part number.
Godd Luck

The new switches are made by someone other than Honeywell. They do not have any part numbers on them at all and the tech advisor says if they have no model number on them, they ARE NOT made by Honeywell. The new switches are supplied by Bennett and either manufactured in-house or by a sub-contractor other than Honeywell.

ApachePete 03-15-2005 10:41 AM

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[QUOTE=RedDog382]Papache or ApachePete(?),

I have an order in for buttons from Honeywell. I have one set coming in white for t500hps, one set in red for me, and an extra set in white in case the red doesn't go with my bezel color. If these are correct, I can send the second set of white on to you, or give you the number to purchase direct from Honeywell. They are $6.50 each plus tax and shipping. Stay tuned ... I should recieve them later this week and will advise. :D

RedDog,

I'd be happy to buy your white switches.

Pete

RedDog382 03-16-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ApachePete

RedDog,

I'd be happy to buy your white switches.

Pete

Roger that, Pete. Standby ...

Chris

formuladude312 03-16-2005 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
I'm going to go pull part numbers this weekend.......
Any suggestions for a new wheel too?

t500hps, Talk to Fred at Trick Marine that is where i got my red wheel for my 312, He had different colors

t500hps 03-17-2005 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by formuladude312
t500hps, Talk to Fred at Trick Marine that is where i got my red wheel for my 312, He had different colors

Thanks.....I did 2 days ago. :D Don't know why I didn't think of that before I asked???

RedDog382 03-19-2005 06:19 AM

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The trim buttons have arrived from Honeywell. They are identical in appearance to the originals except that the originals had a slight "non-skid" texture to the surface contact area. These are smooth and shiny ... I like them better. The red also looks good on my dash. I can send sets on to t500hps and ApachePete if you PM your address.

I also have a number for Bennett Marine at home ... haven't had a chance to call about replacing buttons on the new style switches yet, but I will still try to get info for the newer style switches.

RD

rlking 03-19-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382
The trim buttons have arrived from Honeywell. They are identical in appearance to the originals except that the originals had a slight "non-skid" texture to the surface contact area. These are smooth and shiny ... I like them better. The red also looks good on my dash. I can send sets on to t500hps and ApachePete if you PM your address.

I also have a number for Bennett Marine at home ... haven't had a chance to call about replacing buttons on the new style switches yet, but I will still try to get info for the newer style switches.

RD


can you give me the phone # and part # for those toggle switches as i too need to replace some broken switches

RedDog382 03-19-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rlking
can you give me the phone # and part # for those toggle switches as i too need to replace some broken switches

What year is your Formula and do you need the whole switch or just the buttons? I can post the Honeywell and Bennett contact numbers tomarrow.

formuladude312 03-19-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382
The trim buttons have arrived from Honeywell. They are identical in appearance to the originals except that the originals had a slight "non-skid" texture to the surface contact area. These are smooth and shiny ... I like them better. The red also looks good on my dash. I can send sets on to t500hps and ApachePete if you PM your address.

I also have a number for Bennett Marine at home ... haven't had a chance to call about replacing buttons on the new style switches yet, but I will still try to get info for the newer style switches.

RD

Red Dog, Does the red switches match the livorsi red bezels? Or are they a shade off, Also what year did formula change from honeywell to benetts i have a 2001, Thanks

t500hps 03-19-2005 09:29 PM

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RedDog said they switched switches (hehe) sometime in 1999. Phantom also has a 2001 and is looking for switches. I've got a pic of his and will ask someone local who may be able to track them down.

rlking 03-20-2005 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDog382
What year is your Formula and do you need the whole switch or just the buttons? I can post the Honeywell and Bennett contact numbers tomarrow.

Its a 2002-353 and I've had two switches break already

formuladude312 03-20-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
RedDog said they switched switches (hehe) sometime in 1999. Phantom also has a 2001 and is looking for switches. I've got a pic of his and will ask someone local who may be able to track them down.

Thanks, keep us posted, Still need to know if the red buttons match the red bezels, Thanks

RedDog382 03-21-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by formuladude312
Red Dog, Does the red switches match the livorsi red bezels? Or are they a shade off, Also what year did formula change from honeywell to benetts i have a 2001, Thanks

The red is slightly off-shade from the bezels, but is almost identical to the red Imron all over the boat. It really looks good and is a major improvement visually to the dash.

The change in the switches appears to have been around or prior to 2001.

RedDog382 03-21-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rlking
can you give me the phone # and part # for those toggle switches as i too need to replace some broken switches

You would have the newer switches supplied to Formula by Bennett. Their number is 954-427-1400.

Honeywell probably has a replacement for the older style switches, model 2TP38-7. Call their Sensing and Control division at 800-537-6945 and ask for Donna ... she is GREAT!

A retailer for the Honeywell line of switches and buttons is Peerless Electronics at 800-285-2121. They are a major supplier for industrial and aviation controls and electronics. Located in New York but also locations in Florida.

Those with the newer switches may want to check with Livorsi. They have trim switches in their catalogue that appear the same as those now used by Formula. They may be able to help with replacement buttons on the new style switches, or at least refer you to their manufacturer.


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