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Have any of you guys run shorties on a single step ? and have any pros and or cons. I am looking to switch from bravos to XRs with shorties.

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I had a 29 w/ a 525SC that I installed an Imco upper and -2 lower on - loved the way it handled - it tends to carry the bow level, no matter what the trim setting was. If you go with a shorty, you'll need a prop with bow lift and keep the bow light (i.e. keep the cooler towards the center/stern :rolleyes: ). Also - you will not need to trim the motors as much - I never went past 4 - 4.5 on the trim. The shortie solved my planing problem and allowed me to step up to a larger prop.

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My boat seams to be a little slow , I have been told it is due to having ext boxes and a stock drive . ext boxes tend to put the drives deeper in the water. I will have to pull the inspection cover and see where the heights are set. then buy a - height drive.

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I know for a fact the newer 2001 & up 35 X are aprox. 2 inches higher than my '99 35 Classic - this is why you're seeing 496ho boats run upper 70's - let me know how you make out.

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I will keep you posted , I will call fountain today and see what the x demenison should be and go from there , I am working a deal to get new ones and trading my bravo's.

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There has to be someone out there that has tried shorties on a '97 - 99 35 Single Step, that could share their results, I can not justify the cost without knowing for sure I'm going to have positive results.

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That is kind of what I thought. I get tired of being the one to buy and test and sell for half price when I fine I waisted my money. I buy props and as soon a some one knows I have them they want to try them. I snowmobile also and everyone wants to use my helix and springs and weights at my expense. Don"t get me wrong I like to help out But where is the guys that can help me out.??

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Well I got the boat on the trailer tonight and pulled the inspection cover on the ext box and sound that the box is mounted in the lowest hole bottom. I think this means the drive is higher, Can I go higher with a shorter drive or will I have problems getting on plane. The boat comes out like a jet ski now.

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If you can get on plane good now (like a jetski), you will probably lose some but still be respectable..

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Are they Stelling boxes? When Fountain was installing Stelling boxes from the factory they used the top hole which raised the stock drive height 2". The engine was mounted 1" higher than stock.
Dan

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Candyman, You must be saying that fountain raised the motor first ,then used the top hole in the stellings box. Yes mine are stellings. But if I put mine in the top hole that will put the drive lower in the water. It will lower the ext box. The bolts are in the bottom hole now and I can not trim the drive with out them hitting the swimplatform. and with the drives against the platform at 5200 there is no rooster at all. I think this is slowing the boat .??????????????

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I checked the drive height tonight, they are 4inches from the bottom of the boat to the center of the prop shaft. Does anyone know what this should be with boxes?

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I will be posting before & after results on my 35 going from stock bravo drive to -2 sportmaster lowers - going to run same props (28b1s) & borrow a set of 30's - hopefully pick up some MPH

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That would be great. What power do you have.

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500hp's w/upgrades

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If we get the rain that is due , you will not be able to test. I hope they work out for you.

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they are bolted on & ready to go - just waiting for the weather to co-operate

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On a SSM IV or V, my prop shafts are 1" below the bottom of the hull. That's with Merc 12" boxes.

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hi guys iv'e had my 2" shortys on my 97 single step for 3 years,i picked up 5 mph just bolt on.so far 104 mph is my best speed.im going to remove the defusor ring from my maximus 5 blades this weekend.

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Did Chris M. do the drives for you? what power do you have to get 104.

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yes chris martin does all my drive work ,hp is 800 plus range.by the way i shattered my top speed yesterday 109.9 ,everything was just right except no chop.

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I have known Chris a long time and like the work he does on the drives. I can not believe the speeds we are getting in this weather . I will have to say that last summer a lot of people were saying that there boats were running 3 to 5 slower and nothing had changed, except the news was saying something about changing the the fuel additives or what ever. I wonder if the change in fuel had some impact on how these high horse power motors run.???????????

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well - I finally got to test to -2 inch lowers - had gusty winds the entire weekend - managed to get 85 in moderate to rough conditions - I'm pretty sure there another 1 - 2 in better conditions as I had to pull back the sticks several times due to being launched out of the water. Needless to say I was impressed - 4 MPH faster than my last outing - going to go out & try again in calmer conditions. Bottom line.... they work :D

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Any change coming on plane?

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That's with the same props? What RPM's were you running before and after? I may know what I want for Christmas! :evilb:
Dan

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Congratulations! :drink:
Dan

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Sorry I missed this. The terminology Stelling used was the top hole. This setting was supposed to raise the drive height two inches. The engine is raised 1 inch and the drive line makes up the additional inch.

That being said Ran-Dom 32's results are the same without the boxes. If he likes the way the boat handles with the shorties it may be the way to go.
Dan

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Thanks candyman , I can see where the motor in my 35 had the motor raised at one time .the motor mounts have two extra holes. Ram Don 35, what was the x-demension with the shorties? I would like to here you say two inches ,that would put me in the ball park.

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Prop shaft location is aprox. 2 inches or less below the running surface - coming on plane was OK - -no problem if you drop tabs in the water -(it was pretty rough conditions) I sure it won't be a problem in calmer water- on a side note - I previous was running 28 labbed B1 @ 5200 (81-82) I had 30 Labbed B1 when I tried the shorties. & the RPM was pretty much the same 5200 - (84-85) like I said I will try again in calmer water & should net better results. -& I will be able to comment on handling issues

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well I tried her again today in calmer conditions & squeezed out another MPH - boat felt pretty stable - GPS spiked to 88 for a second :eek: but dropped to 85 - 86 I did notice my RPM was 5300 - 5400 right @ the rev limiter with 30 pitch labbed B1's - anyways I am definitely going to save up for a set in the spring. Pretty good way to end the season :cool:

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I wonder how it would do with 32 b1's

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I was thinking that to - or a set of 5 blades - its never ends $$$$

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I think mv35 said he was running 5 blades. I met Mark P the throttle guy for the cat can do boat at a poker run in Ohio. He lives near you and is helping me get some shorties maybe he can help you out also. PM me if you are intrested and I will give you his number.

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hey guys that is true,the maximus 5 blades are awsome. i have a set of 28 maximus 5blades and a pair of 2" shortys for sale if anybody is interested.give me a call (315-373-1085)

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some pics.

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mv 35 - just curious - did you find a better set up?

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R.L. Stay away from the maximus's. P5x or herrings work great.

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P.R do you have a set I could try out?? :drink:

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Ram don 32 how much longer are you going to keep your boat in. I think I wil pull mine sunday if it ever stops raining.

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1 - set p5x 29"
1- set herring labed 5 bl. 32"