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Strip Poker 388 09-08-2006 05:35 PM

42 Fountain bottoms ?
 
What years did they change the bottom on a 42 from 2000 to 2004?

Downtown42 09-09-2006 04:38 PM

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Not sure but 2005 was a new bottom.

FeverMike 09-09-2006 09:45 PM

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They went from the twin small steps to the larger steps around 2000. I believe the Fever still had the small steps and the Lightning had the new larger ones. Then there was a small change around 2003-04 and then again in 05.

FeverMike 09-10-2006 07:40 AM

Re: 42 Fountain bottoms ?
 
Blume what did they use to call the 42 EX then? They had 2 different decks at one point. The 42 EX deck had the smaller steps then they discontinued that deck and bottom a year or so after they brought out the current Lightning deck and that hull had bigger steps. This was around 1999-2000.

FeverMike 09-10-2006 06:35 PM

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Blume, in 1999 they built both decks but the new deck had the new larger steps for the bottom. There were a few of these boats -1999 models- at the Fountain dealer when I bought my 2000 29 Fever in Oct of 1999. I'll have to go look through some old Fountain catalogs I have. Confusing huh? :D

DirtyMoney 09-10-2006 07:26 PM

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What was the bottom used around 95 was it just for one year? Small steps

FeverMike 09-10-2006 08:43 PM

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rbr2328, No they used the small steps up till '99

44MTI 09-10-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
rbr2328, No they used the small steps up till '99

The smaller steps were a much more stable bottom at higher speeds.
Not to confuse the issue, but they had 2 different large step bottoms in 99 and forward, but with different angles of attack.One was for small power bravo boat and the other was for large power #6 boats. But there were mistakes, I ended up with 900SC's and #6's on a boat with the more aggresive bravo bottom. Ran great, but could be unstable in very smooth water at high speeds.Then they also made a third large step bottom that was actually only notches, no step, also around 2001.I think this one was a very limited production and was used mostly for race boats.However Jeaston from the board here ended up with one of these.Sooooooooooooooooooo, that makes 3 possible bottoms.

Cash Bar 09-10-2006 11:41 PM

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Jeez, I thought you only knew stuff about boats built "hypothetically".... :rolleyes: :D

44MTI 09-11-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CASH BAR
Jeez, I thought you only knew stuff about boats built "hypothetically".... :rolleyes: :D

Well, your right, that is my specialty. :evilb: :evilb:

sellsman11 09-11-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CASH BAR
Jeez, I thought you only knew stuff about boats built "hypothetically".... :rolleyes: :D

OUCH!!!!!


42MTI.....I had a great time this weekend. Looking forward to Sarasota!!! BTW...I need your info to 1099 you on the Red Bull you drank this weekend!! :drink: :drink: :evilb:

44MTI 09-11-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sellsman11
OUCH!!!!!


42MTI.....I had a great time this weekend. Looking forward to Sarasota!!! BTW...I need your info to 1099 you on the Red Bull you drank this weekend!! :drink: :drink: :evilb:

LOL, Thank you and Woods for a great weekend, it was a blast. Don't worry about the 1099, tell Woods to just discount off the boat. :eek: :D :D

Don't worry Blume, inside joke on Woodsy, but thanks for looking out for a brother. :drink:

ThunderBoat38 09-21-2006 03:44 PM

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Sellsman11 ......... say "hello" to JJ for me!!!
See you in Destin?

Strip Poker 388 09-23-2006 12:39 PM

Re: 42 Fountain bottoms ?
 

Originally Posted by 42MTI
The smaller steps were a much more stable bottom at higher speeds.
Not to confuse the issue, but they had 2 different large step bottoms in 99 and forward, but with different angles of attack.One was for small power bravo boat and the other was for large power #6 boats. But there were mistakes, I ended up with 900SC's and #6's on a boat with the more aggresive bravo bottom. Ran great, but could be unstable in very smooth water at high speeds.Then they also made a third large step bottom that was actually only notches, no step, also around 2001.I think this one was a very limited production and was used mostly for race boats.However Jeaston from the board here ended up with one of these.Sooooooooooooooooooo, that makes 3 possible bottoms.


So what one would be better with 850hp per side? and what speeds would you see full cabin?

Thanks

Rob :drink:

FeverMike 09-23-2006 04:52 PM

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I too have heard about the 2 different large step 42 bottoms for different power but no one I know with Fountain will confirm that and say that is not so. I do know for sure the 42 Cigarette Tiger Twin step has 2 different bottoms depending on power.. and that is published with Cig...the Fountain 42 bottoms are a rumor from my understanding...although if someone from Fountain can confirm this please correct me. I do know since the large step 42 bottom came out there have been a few revisions to it due to racing and Reggies on going R&D.

44MTI 09-24-2006 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
So what one would be better with 850hp per side? and what speeds would you see full cabin?

Thanks

Rob :drink:

It depends on what you want out of the boat. The one I had was a completely factory, new boat. It was a Merc 900SC, #6 powered boat but it had the more aggressive Bravo bottom. It ran 106 on GPS, but that was with the drives filled with the heavy wet sump lube. Mistakenly done by the dealer I bought it from and not discovered until right before I traded it. Fountain said they usually saw a 3-7 mph increase with a wet sump. So maybe 109-110 with correct oil in drive.
You can tell the difference in the hulls by how far the stakes come up on the front of the boat. The Number 6 boats the stakes come all the way to the V at the front. The bravo boats, the strakes only go straight forward and stop several ft. short of the front.
This straight from Jeff Harris at fountain 4 yrs ago.

FeverMike 09-24-2006 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 42MTI
It depends on what you want out of the boat. The one I had was a completely factory, new boat. It was a Merc 900SC, #6 powered boat but it had the more aggressive Bravo bottom. It ran 106 on GPS, but that was with the drives filled with the heavy wet sump lube. Mistakenly done by the dealer I bought it from and not discovered until right before I traded it. Fountain said they usually saw a 3-7 mph increase with a wet sump. So maybe 109-110 with correct oil in drive.
You can tell the difference in the hulls by how far the stakes come up on the front of the boat. The Number 6 boats the stakes come all the way to the V at the front. The bravo boats, the strakes only go straight forward and stop several ft. short of the front.
This straight from Jeff Harris at fountain 4 yrs ago.

43MTI, thanks for the info....Jeff Harris was a class act at Fountain! :D What is Jeff up to these day's?

Strip Poker 388 09-24-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 42MTI
It depends on what you want out of the boat. The one I had was a completely factory, new boat. It was a Merc 900SC, #6 powered boat but it had the more aggressive Bravo bottom. It ran 106 on GPS, but that was with the drives filled with the heavy wet sump lube. Mistakenly done by the dealer I bought it from and not discovered until right before I traded it. Fountain said they usually saw a 3-7 mph increase with a wet sump. So maybe 109-110 with correct oil in drive.
You can tell the difference in the hulls by how far the stakes come up on the front of the boat. The Number 6 boats the stakes come all the way to the V at the front. The bravo boats, the strakes only go straight forward and stop several ft. short of the front.
This straight from Jeff Harris at fountain 4 yrs ago.


I would of thouht it would be faster with that much power . Maybe the newer step bottom is faster?

Isnt Jeff working with/for team CRC?


Rob :D

Downtown42 09-24-2006 01:10 PM

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Pair A Dice 2000...117 with full cabin...900 SC and 6's.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...air-A-Dice.jpg

On Time 10-03-2006 10:39 AM

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Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the website fresh over from TeamBajaMarine, a 33 Outlaw I still own! But I'm thinking about getting into a 2005 42 Ex 525's staggered. What kind of a wave crusher, if at all is this boat, or is it only a "go fast 38 footer" as all my friends are telling me. The 33 Baja has a good rough water ride. We are in Houston, Gulf of Mexico.

OL40SVX 10-03-2006 11:02 AM

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The 42 fountain has a very good ride. One of the best ive ever been on. Speeds should be around 83-84mph consistantly.

On Time 10-03-2006 11:52 AM

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Is this boat really a "38 footer" as many are saying?

Downtown42 10-03-2006 12:24 PM

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I bought my 2005 42 new and love the boat. Had a 35 for 8 yrs prior.
You won't crush waves, but rather skip over them. The faster you go the better it will ride which takes some getting used to.

Test ride one first and you will answer your own question. Happy shopping :drink:

On Time 10-03-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
I bought my 2005 42 new and love the boat. Had a 35 for 8 yrs prior.
You won't crush waves, but rather skip over them. The faster you go the better it will ride which takes some getting used to.

Test ride one first and you will answer your own question. Happy shopping :drink:

Thanks, I did, but it was rough conditions 4'chop got to 70mph but I was really hanging on! I've only got rides in 38 Scarab AVS and Baja 38 special to compare it to, and those were in much milder waters. There seems to be a distinct difference in ride between stepped and straight hulls at the same length.

Strip Poker 388 10-03-2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
Pair A Dice 2000...117 with full cabin...900 SC and 6's.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...air-A-Dice.jpg


Race boat with full cabin??

So how much faster would the newer bottom with same power be over the 117?????????


Rob :drink:

Downtown42 10-04-2006 05:07 PM

Re: 42 Fountain bottoms ?
 
Pair A Dice was a 42 Lightning full pleasure version with no light lay-up. A 3rd bolster could be popped in front for the 3rd man when needed.

On Time 10-13-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
I too have heard about the 2 different large step 42 bottoms for different power but no one I know with Fountain will confirm that and say that is not so. I do know for sure the 42 Cigarette Tiger Twin step has 2 different bottoms depending on power.. and that is published with Cig...the Fountain 42 bottoms are a rumor from my understanding...although if someone from Fountain can confirm this please correct me. I do know since the large step 42 bottom came out there have been a few revisions to it due to racing and Reggies on going R&D.

Is there any way to get more information on the bottoms? I've heard people say yes and others say no that the Lightining and Ex bottoms are different. Fountain Cust Svc just now told me they were different, that the small steps go on the Executioner, or staggered models. This is way too confusing...

wcmarine 10-13-2006 02:41 PM

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the new 42 APRA boat I think ran 126 with 900's

Downtown42 10-13-2006 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wcmarine
the new 42 APRA boat I think ran 126 with 900's

epoxy hull.

42 2005 lightning and ex were the same bottom. And same as the record holder 177 fastest pass.

FeverMike 10-13-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by avarady
Is there any way to get more information on the bottoms? I've heard people say yes and others say no that the Lightining and Ex bottoms are different. Fountain Cust Svc just now told me they were different, that the small steps go on the Executioner, or staggered models. This is way too confusing...

Sounds like they thought you were talking about the 35 hulls. The 35 Ex and Lighting hulls are different but the 42 Ex and Lighting hulls are the same.

Strip Poker 388 10-13-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
epoxy hull.

42 2005 lightning and ex were the same bottom. And same as the record holder 177 fastest pass.


Your saying the 42 2005 is the same bottom as in this pick?????

Except for the water intake thats in the bottom of the hull

Downtown42 10-14-2006 02:09 PM

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I will get a pick of mine...there may be a difference.

Downtown42 10-17-2006 05:09 PM

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here's an older pic I found, I'll try to get one closer

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0377Medium.jpg

Back4More 10-17-2006 05:26 PM

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The 42 Ex and 42 Lightning have different bottoms.

Downtown42 10-17-2006 05:42 PM

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I think they are the same in 2005.

Strip Poker 388 10-17-2006 11:54 PM

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looks like it

On Time 10-18-2006 11:18 PM

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TODAY Fountain Cust Svc told me that they bottoms were the same in '05 forward. The performance should be identical. SO WHY are there so many more Lightning than Ex out there when Lightning is so much more expensive?

On Time 10-18-2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
I bought my 2005 42 new and love the boat. Had a 35 for 8 yrs prior.
You won't crush waves, but rather skip over them. The faster you go the better it will ride which takes some getting used to.

Test ride one first and you will answer your own question. Happy shopping :drink:

Hey Downtown you are a 42 Ex aren't you? I went out with my friend last weekend on his 42 Lightning 575's and we had a great ride. Where does the air stream hit you on your boat when you are in the stand up driving position?

Downtown42 10-19-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by avarady
Hey Downtown you are a 42 Ex aren't you? I went out with my friend last weekend on his 42 Lightning 575's and we had a great ride. Where does the air stream hit you on your boat when you are in the stand up driving position?

yes 42 Ex. Standing up chest-neck height I guess. 5'9''. I always would stand in the 35, the 42 is really comfortable sitting down. Ride is level and I am tucked in just perfect.

I can see the negatives for a big boy in a Fountain.

Downtown42 10-19-2006 01:49 PM

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Lightnings have more headroom and you can get TV, A/C, Genset, all the stuff that breaks unless you run with Petunia's on the table and a washer dryer :evilb:


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