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What kind of top end should one expect out of a '06 35 ex. with 496s? I have a friend who bought one and gets about 70 from it. My 27 fever is faster and that kind of suprised me.

Mid 70's. What drive ratio and props?

Your friend's test report will tell you what the factory was able to achieve and at what drive/tab settings. Call the factory for a copy if he doesn't have it.

78 MPH Gps. Takes a year & a day to get there. Bravos
stink mid range and bang the limiters at wot. 10 mph
gain @ same rpm with 30 maximus but loose 2mph
@ wot

I think seat time and dialing in will get him where he should be. It's taken me awhile to get mine to this point. Thanks for the response.

So what kind of cruise speed to you have now at say 3000, 3500, and 4000 rpm? 10 mph is a huge gain.

the maxes usually give you 8-10 in the cruise over the 4 bld.

we have delivered about 9 35 singles steps with 496's the slow end was 77 and the fastes was 81 and change.
all same ratio, just lil differences in the bottoms.
meng is wright as for the max's but if your patient you can tweak them to get your cruise and the 80 mark.

I noticed the same thing with my 502s in a 35 Classic. It would run 75, but took forever to get there.

I had the maximus's labbed every way possible. Never
got the top end back to 78 and lost 4-5 mph at cruise.
Settled for stock maximus's as they perform better
than all the labbed versions I had. The fuel milage
increase is substantail. Cruises at 10 mph faster
in the 33-3800 rpm range and stays on plane at
lower speeds. The 32 bravo really is not the
best prop for this boat. I have wondered how it
would run with a 34 bravo,but I suspect getting on
plane would be difficult.

What props would you run on a 96 35' Lightning single step with stock 502's

Probably 26 bravos. They raised the X dim on the
EX and went with a 1:65 drive ratio, thats why they
can run the large props. What are you running now?

a newer Ex with 1.65 and 28p runs high 70's sometimes if water is perfect 80ish

27p 4 Blade and they spin in. Seemed to have lost alittle top end. I also was reading about where to trim, and alot of people said over 5 was to high and rough on the drives? My performance report at WOT trim 5.7 Tabs 3 @ 77mph

stock will give best cruise.

however it does take a lot of time to dial these props in. fortuneately i have had the opportunity to find the rite labing process to give desired results.

on the 35's i have set up i have seen the same top end within a 1/2 mph, and improvement in the cruise about 7 -8, varied on boat.

my local prop guy has done the right job with these wheels, as we tend NOT to lab them for ultimate top end which is where you loose the efficiency of the max.

Hi Monstaaa,
It sounds like you are very familar with the 35 Fountains. I have a 2000 Classic, single step with 500EFI's. I have Bravo 1 4blade props, one set of 28's and one set of 30's. Niether are labbed. I am more interested in having the maximum mid range cruise than I am in having the ultimate top end. What is the best set up, and should they be labbed or not. I am on the West Coast, I assume that your are on the East Coast.
TIA
David

Sounds about right. For me, I'll take the 10 mph at
cruise over the extra 2 mph @ top end and 7-8 @
cruise. I rarely run @ WOT...so its a good trade off.

out of the box from mercury will most likely give a great cruise, as for the max's.
5 blades will allways be better then 4 for cruising.

i would suggest the 5 bld max 15 5/8 x 28 .

again labing doesnt all ways mean your going for top speed just curtailing that prop for that boat. and as each boat difers slightly, thats where you can find the efficiency of that prop for that boat.as per the owners desires.

in any case the max's are great out of the hole, turning, docking, cruising, and not bad on top.

we had a client with a new icbm with herrings 6 bld. he likes the spped however he wanted better cruise and more mid range snap. i suggested max's. when tried they did hit the rev limiters hard ta 96 and change, shy of the herrings 101, but the cruise picked up huge and the acceleration was incredible. not to mention they planed in about 3 and a 1/2 seconds over the herrings.

nothing beats knowing your desire to come to a correct end result.

if you want a great cruise then go for the max's.

Hi Monstaaa,
Thanks for the info.
David

your welcome. good luck.

Are you saying these would be the right set up for a single step 35 with 500's? Seem like a little too much to me. Not being critical here, just curious. I don't think mine, 35 w/500's, would turn 28 inch five blades.

I was running 32 bravos,went with 30
maximus. Was banging the limiters with the 32's
only hitting 4900-5000 with the maximus. My ex
has 1:65 bravos, so you may have different results.
The X dim is very high on the EX also....but I
only have 496's.

what gear ratio?

if its a 1;65 then you will . easier than if you have 1 :50.
but you should be able to turn them.

'99 35 Lightning w/500 carbs & 1.50's. Runs non lab 26 Hydros to 5300 (+/- a touch) and lab 28 bravos the same RPM and speed is close, cruise is better with the Bravos and top end better with the Hydros. I run both turning in, general boating I like the bravos, plane at lower speed and cruise faster. But top end and rough water handling my preference is definitly the Hydros. I like the tail lift and the more level attitude at speed. Non lab 28 Bravos ran right around 5000 the one time I tried them and actually gave close to the same top speed as the other two sets, the lab versions accelerate better.

Have you ever tried the Hydro P5's, not the X's, on a single step 35, how'd they work out.

It is a good trade off...right up until time you get passed by 2 mph!! This is by no means a critical comment but we all pay a lot of money to purchase, maintain and fuel these li'l beauties. They are, after all, "go fast" boats and most of us want to enhance them to go faster. I, for one, do not want to trade top end for anything; which is why I am toying with the idea of going with the Throttle Up CNC 5 blades. The claim is an increase in mid-range (not as much as the stock Maximus), and an increase in top end as well. I know I will get beat up by someone out there but I like entertaining the idea of "best of both worlds"...elusive though it may be. OK guys, I'm ready so let me have it!

G-

never tried the p5's on a 35, but they work well on a 38.
they tend to give up plane time, some cruise vs the max, but are fast up top. some sacrifice on the handling at speed.

as ferdon mentioned i to would like to try a set of these cnc 5 bld's, havent as of yet so no input there.

i would still say for the over all advantage i'd go with the max's.

an ultimate scenario would be to have a set of 4 bld merc's with a sick labing, t o have when out with just 1 other person and looking to run. and then have a set of max's , tweaked, for every other day.

Let me know how you make out if you go for the CNC'd
props. Oh, hell yes I want the top end!!!! Just not @ the
sacrafice in the cruise. I made a valient effort to get
both...but after 400.00 in shipping props across the
U.S. , three labbed props & 3k later...I gave up.:(

I hear ya', this can be an exasperating sport! I will let you know the results if I decide to go that way.

Guess it depends on what your priorities are. I'd rather have both but if I had to choose I'd take an extra 10mph at cruise over 2mph on the top end any day. Guess its all in how you run your boat....

or you can do what i suggest to many. buy a second set of props. one for top end. one for hangin and bangin.

Has anyone tried a set of 30 Hydro Q4's on a 35ex yet? I will be splashing my 99 35' this weekend for the first time with the whippled 500 efi's, have Bravo 1.36 drives and a set of stock Bravo 32's and will also be testing a set of the Hydro q4 30's soon.

i used to run a hydro on my race boat. i didnt care for it. but i used it as a spare if i damaged my bravo during a race.

i have yet to try out their new cnc props. anyu input on those

Had my props done by Mariners cove and i have seen 82 on gps. They got the prop thing down!

LIke Monstaaa asked - Anyone tried the new cnc'ed props from Throttle Up? I've read about race applications, but haven't seen anyone report how they perform on the boats we run everyday.

82!! Do you have a EX with 496's? If so,what props?
What was your top end before labbing? How is the
cruise speed?

Cruise is better than stock props but not as good as the un-labbed maximus. Yes 496 boat! Props are a special cut. Ask Monstaa. Maybe he will tell their secrets.

What props are you using, and what pitch?