42 or 47, 850's or 1075's
 

I have offically been bitten by the faster is better bug. I have a 05' 38 Lightning w/525's that I have had for about six weeks and I want to go bigger and faster and I am looking for some feedback. I want to get either a 42 or 47 w/850's or 1075's. Does anyone know what the true speeds are on either of these boats with this power? I will be using the boat in the ocean off of atlantic city, NJ and would benefit from the added length of the 47 but like the higher speeds of the 42.

How many hours will I get out of either of these engines and what maintenance do they need? Is there any reliability discrepancy between these two engines?

Thanks for your help.
TJ

My personal opinion is that I would go for the 42 with 700's and sixes. There you have a bullet proof 100+ mph boat all day long in pretty much any water.

Thanks for the input. Why the 700's? Are they more reliable/efficent then the 850's or 1075's?

ditto...What will you do with the 38'?

42 with 1075's should run 130.

In other words, YES.

Lower HP will equal longer life, generally speaking. The "routine maintenance" for an 850 or a 1075 involves tearing the motor down every 100 or so hours...

At a cost of 26k PER engine!!!:eek:

42 , 700's and 6's , just over 100.

42, 850's and 6's, 115- 118
42, 1075'S AND 6'S, 126- 130+

maintanance on the 700 is the best as for refreshens. how ever you saying you have the bug, and 6 weeks in your 38 , i would say thw 42 with 1075's.

only draw back is at about 60-70 hrs , top half and 100- 120 refresh. how ever the memories and feeling the adrenaline will send thru you will easily out way the cost.

not to summarize, but if you can dish out the coin for a 42/ 1075 boat, dont sweat the details.

Yup.


Why not go the 47 twin 1500 route?

Thanks for the input. My 38 will be for sale soon. I am putting it on my website and should have the photos and videos up by the end of the week. What is the longevity on the 700's as for refresh etc. Is it correct that the refresh cost on the 850's or 1075's is 26K each?

I think 26k as performed by merc. Somebody posted about this a little bit ago.

When you're ready send me a PM on here with the details, my 35 is sold and and delivering this saturday.

850's come with a better drive line.

How much fast do you want to go? 42 with 1075's can turn into a nightmare if you boat alot of hours a year. I read that 50 hrs they need freshing up. The boat runs upward of 125 mph, easy. How much time do you have at that speed. The learning curve is very steep. Im sure if you are going to drop that much coin, you arent worried about insurance. It goes up as fast as the speed does. Our 38/700's is a blast. Good luck, have fun. Do your self a favor. Check with Shogren Marine talk to Scott. The only dealer I would deal with on a Fountain like that. If you are that serious, talk to him, he is a boat racer and can really point you in the right direction.

Real Delivered Boat Speeds For 42's & 47's
 

Hope This Helps:

These speeds are based on boats we have sold and delivered with a minimum of four people and 200 gallons of fuel on board.

42 With 850's - 118 - 120MPH

42 With 1075's - 133MPH

47 With Triple 525's - 91MPH

47 With Triple 600's - 95MPH

47 With Twin 700's - 89MPH

47 With 850's - Just got our first one - 8 People, 250 Gallons Of Fuel, 102MPH ON Lake Michigan.

I have not run a 47 With 1075's but my guess would be 115MPH with load.

Scott Shogren
Shogren Perfromance Marine
847-336-9037
www.chicagofountain.com

Thanks for the help. I have gotten feedback from several people and I am going to try and find a boat with 700's because I will use my boat a lot and the 850's and the 1075's are not going to give me the longevity I want.

I am going to try and find a 42 with 700's or a 47 with triple 700's. Does anyone know anything about the red 2007 47 w/ triple 700's at Legendary Marine in FL?

If anyone has either of these setups new or pre owned with less then 50 hours please contact me at [email protected]

TJ

The 42 With 700's is a great package. We are not offering the 700 Triple anymore. We only built 2.

what speed is that package? Thanks, Tom

I have a 42' Lightning with 700's and it's a fantastic combination that has run 105MPH on Lake Michigan. I chose the 700s because of their maintenance schedule since I typically log more then 100 hours per season. Call Scott Shogren and he will take care of you. I bought my last two Fountains from Scott and he's the best.

Turbine Marine TM 1800
 

For the absolute best MPG, horsepower for the $, weight to speed ratio, longetivy, and flexibility of fuel the Turbine Marine TM 1800 is you best bet. Only draw back is forget about insuring your vessel because no company will do it. Twin set up will net 3600 HP top speed remains unseen. Will work on 42 and 47. Both excess of 150 MPH @ 3,000 LB lighter than twin 1075 SC.

If you must insure your boat then Nor-Tech 900's will outlast Mercruisers before their scheduled ovehaul two to one. About 120 hours for the top end.

Next option for durability is Teague TCM 900EFI About 110 hours before top end service and will rocket a 43 Donzi ZR at 26+ MPH. On Fountain 42 must be 30+ MPH. Also lighter than 1075 Merc.

Cheers! to speed..

Live Hard Die Pretty.

You have driven one. The engines in the boat you took on the casino trip dynoed at 690 each. Should give you a rough idea.

The 38 with 700's will run 115mph and I would expect around 110mph in a 35 with 600's, both of which are better in terms of maintenance and insurance. If money is no object, go with a 42PR with 1075's. It will take a cat with big power to outrun you.

Hey Shogren, How fast was the triple 700sci 42 and why are you not doing any more? Also meant to ask, what is the rebuild schedule on the 700's top end and full rebould?

If you're wanting to run in the atlantic off New Jersey, you'd be much better off in a 47. It is a much larger, heavier boat and not that much slower with the same power. You will be more comfortable and drier when the seas abruptly turn on you which tends to happen there.

26k to rebuild a 1075 would not be so bad. brace yourself got quoted 95k for his two from merc along with some other work. now that is some serious coin if you have to do it every hundred hours or less.

I am not sure I understand, we never built a 42 triple and the 47 triple 700 boat was not what Reggie wanted in comparison to the performance he acheived with the twin 700 boat. The rebiold question is tough because everyone boats differently but I would say top ends 250-300 and motors 400-500 hours. The most we have seen is 275 hours with no problems on a set of 700's but we have a very short boating season.

Hope this helps.

I would have thought the 47' with triple 700's would have been an awesome package for someone who doesn't want to deal with the shorter maint schedules on a twin 850 or twin 1075 boat. Guess the performance wasn't anywhere close to the ~ 115mph of the twin 1075 despite similar total HP. Guess it's another instance of the inefficiency of trips when compared to twins.

I Have A Boat 850 A Bunch Of Bull**** Maint Schudels 700 Boat A Pig To Get On Plane I Just Drop The Price 290.000

What?

check the thread below this one. I have a white 2009 with 700 and six's email me at [email protected]. full warranty

My observations.....

1) The 42 is a much more FUN boat. It is much smaller and is easier to play with. The 47 is cool in its own way, long and comfortable.. They are like a BMW 3-series compared a 7-series. Everything happens faster in the 42.
2) The balance of the 42 is unique. Put the hammers down and hold on tight. The boat is fine tuned, where the std 47 (3x525) is more tail heavy.
3) The cabin is ALOT bigger and better in the 47. Remember, this is a comfort vessel. The NEW 42s has the new cabin and they give a lot better impression than the earlier 42s.
4) Cockpit is huge on the 47, great for 8-10 persons if that is interesting.
5) The thrill of starting up the 3rd engine on wide open exhaus is unforgettable. Looks awesom at the marina...
6) You need a serious tow truck for the 47.
7) You get wet in the 47 also, the fact that the boat is so long, actually means that the cockpit is further back from the bow tip, giving the water more time to blow over you in the real heavy swells and strong side winds. I am talking from experience here!

I am sure you would love the 42 with 1075s. The boat is boring to run with 600s, 700s and No 6s would make it more fun for sure, but get the biggest power and run them not too hard, and I am sure they will work twice as long as Merc says...... Then you really have the best that money can buy (in my opinion).

Or the 47 with 3x700..... It is still the best looking Vee I know about. And it is something special every time I run it. Turns more heads than any 42 at the docks.

Buy one of each!!!!


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